Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 25: Requiem - Page 2

ctt4lfecw · 02-19-2017, 07:32 AM

Wow that was something.

Aaronardo · 02-19-2017, 07:33 AM

Wow. I have no criticisms. Just a legitimately well-done episode. Nice use of foreshadowing and all the characters were well-done. Hell, even the two references were quite good.

For the first time since the second season, I think I'm gonna immediately watch this episode again now. Well done.

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-19-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spirael

That's fine, I don't understand you either!

Either they leave the shout out to the original film intact, or don't put it in at all. Having a sombre "Oops" would have just been beyond weird!

Not somber, subtle.

It's really hard to describe since I'm not a voice director but the way Josh Peck said it kinda felt out of place.

Like you have Splinter dead in the corner and Casey just really decides to EMPHASISE that 'OOOPS' in a moody teenager kind of way...

In that moment, Casey should have been so awestruck that he says it almost under his breath!

*ObiWanFan4life* · 02-19-2017, 07:40 AM

My only real critique is that the show has pulled the Splinter is gonna die card a few too many times for the ending (which is still well done) to be as moving as it could have been.

Dust · 02-19-2017, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

I genuinely don't understand this...

Did you watch the original 1991 TMNT film? Casey's "oops" is a reference to that, dump truck and all, and it's obviously spoken with contempt for Shredder.

Cyndaquilfan123 · 02-19-2017, 07:44 AM

Wow. Just wow. Splinter is dead!?!?! Did Leatherhead drown Rahzaar?

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-19-2017, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

O_O Wow! That was intense. I'll be back later to compose my thoughts better and rewatch it.

I saw what happened to Rahzar but what happened to Fishface? It's like he disappeared.

I thought of the six henchmutants we only saw Baxter's fate? I could have missed something in Korean.

*Vicky82* · 02-19-2017, 07:48 AM

Guys try not to spoil the next episode please.

*ToTheNines* · 02-19-2017, 07:49 AM

Oh man, if you didn't cry, you have no soul. That was rough.

Brutal episode. I'm at a loss for words. I was having such a fun morning (I went back and watched The Gauntlet, Showdown, and Tale of The Yokai) and now I'm gonna be bummed all day.

RIP Splinter and best wishes to Hoon Lee. Dude is insanely talented. Looking forward to seeing him in Iron Fist.

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-19-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

My only real critique is that the show has pulled the Splinter is gonna die card a few too many times for the ending (which is still well done) to be as moving as it could have been.

I disagree.

I don't care what anyone thinks of this particular incarnation - wether Splinter fake died before or the fact that the show went downhill after Season 1...

If this isn't the single most powerful image in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles then you are not a fan.

*Fang Wolf* · 02-19-2017, 08:04 AM

I saw that they had taken part of the first TMNT film 1990.
When Shredder falls into the garbage truck and Casey start it.

Shredder is the monster without feelings?

Now he is completely destroyed.

+ That was great eps, but sad.

*BubblyShell22* · 02-19-2017, 08:05 AM

Whoa! That was an intense and sad episode! The battle scenes were intense and when he offed Splinter, I yelled out and then cried when the Turtles did. I also got emotional when Splinter was talking to Leo and you could just tell he knew what was going to happen. I think he was having dreams about it and knew it was time for him to go. It was still sad though and hats off to all of the actors for some great performances as they all did a great job with them. You could feel the emotion as you watched it and it made you cry for them.

Also loved the throwback to the first movie and Casey pressing the lever. I thought his line was delivered just fine and he did it obviously in contempt of Shredder as someone else just said.

Overall, a sad but brilliant episode nonetheless.

Next episode, it's about to go down for REAL!

*ObiWanFan4life* · 02-19-2017, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Whoa! That was an intense and sad episode! The battle scenes were intense and when he offed Splinter, I yelled out and then cried when the Turtles did. I also got emotional when Splinter was talking to Leo and you could just tell he knew what was going to happen. I think he was having dreams about it and knew it was time for him to go. It was still sad though and hats off to all of the actors for some great performances as they all did a great job with them. You could feel the emotion as you watched it and it made you cry for them.

Also loved the throwback to the first movie and Casey pressing the lever. I thought his line was delivered just fine and he did it obviously in contempt of Shredder as someone else just said.

Overall, a sad but brilliant episode nonetheless.

Next episode, it's about to go down for REAL!

Ideed! It is

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-19-2017, 08:13 AM

Also I think this might be the first kids cartoon to say the D word and then immediately carry it out right afterward... O_O

SAVAGERY

Unworthy tinker · 02-19-2017, 08:13 AM

Hands down, best episode since The Invasion. No other episode if the 2012 series had brought me this close to crying (well, maybe Tale of the Yokai), until now.

The reference to Carter was random. I personally never really hated the character, but it is still an odd choice to reference one of the most hated characters in the franchise. The only reason I can see for this reference could be a sign that Nick's Red sky/FF&BTTS era is coming. When you think about it, season five is just that. It'll have actual arcs, but probably won't tie into the first four seasons much. It's a shift in direction, I suppose. Or it's just taking a jab at the 80's series and I'm overthinking it. Probably isn't foreshadowing.

I actually like Casey saying "Oops". It showed how pissed off he was while conveying the character's personality, and it didn't really come off as stupid (to me anyways). Can we at least agree that it was better than the controversial "This is awesome!" In Annihilation: Earth?
I liked early Casey since he cared about some things and had his deeper moments, but of course he became less likeable in more recent years. However, I feel like he's actually been more tolerable since The Power Inside her. Here though, he was dare I say, actually kind of badass?

And finally, the big one. I thought that Splinter had fake died too many times for it to still bring me to tears. I was mistaken. I was sad when he fell, had trouble keeping it together during the flashbacks, then lost it when Mikey said "Papa".

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-19-2017, 08:21 AM

Yeah the 'Papa' line...

Well played Brandon Auman (or whoever made that specific writing decision)

I cried. Again.

*ToTheNines* · 02-19-2017, 08:22 AM

So I couldn't fathom a 7 day wait and went ahead and watched Owari in Korean.

Won't spoil anything, but I just want to say: FUC* YOU NICKELODEON SCHEDULING DEPARTMENT!

This plays so good as a 2 parter, and the last 3 seasons have all followed the same formula. Then again, knowing the simpletons that work on scheduling, maybe it's simply Ciro and Company's fault for not just calling them Owari parts 1 and 2.

Aaronardo · 02-19-2017, 08:23 AM

Even aside from the "oops" part, Casey was really good in this episode. If that doesn't show how great the other characters were, I don't know what does. He felt like the character they introduced in the second season years ago. Just some kid, but surprisingly competent. Even the one joke he told was pretty good.

I f*cking loved that Carter reference. It worked in the context of the scene and came right out of nowhere. Nice touch.

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-19-2017, 08:25 AM

Also, is this the first time the Turtles cried in this series?

I remember in the 2003 series they cried like every other episode...

**Jester** · 02-19-2017, 08:28 AM

Watching now. Laughed way to hard at the Carter reference. Expected Super Shredder to say "Then so be it!" When Karai said they'd all die in the warehouse fight. Let's see how this all plays out.

EDIT: man...what a gut punch. Though the garbage truck and Casey's, "Oops." Had me cheering. Next week is going to be wicked.

View Poll Results: A moment of silence for Hamato Yoshi
Looks like Shredder has given up on Karai ever seeing him as a father again	4	6.78%
Rockwell: (sarcastically) Egad, I could barely defend myself	4	6.78%
Mikey: My dudes, my bros, my Turts...it's that time again. Our series is winding down	7	11.86%
Splinter: Leadership doesn't come from your head, it comes from your heart	8	13.56%
Splinter...T.T	14	23.73%
Casey: (Flips garbage truck lever) Oops	22	37.29%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

02-19-2017, 07:40 AM	#24
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	My only real critique is that the show has pulled the Splinter is gonna die card a few too many times for the ending (which is still well done) to be as moving as it could have been. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

02-19-2017, 07:48 AM	#28
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,775	Guys try not to spoil the next episode please. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

02-19-2017, 08:04 AM	#31
Fang Wolf Proud Swedish Furry Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In Europe: Sweden Posts: 3,521	I saw that they had taken part of the first TMNT film 1990. When Shredder falls into the garbage truck and Casey start it. Shredder is the monster without feelings? Now he is completely destroyed. + That was great eps, but sad. __________________ My Furaffinity Fang Wolf's Illustrations

02-19-2017, 08:05 AM	#32
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Whoa! That was an intense and sad episode! The battle scenes were intense and when he offed Splinter, I yelled out and then cried when the Turtles did. I also got emotional when Splinter was talking to Leo and you could just tell he knew what was going to happen. I think he was having dreams about it and knew it was time for him to go. It was still sad though and hats off to all of the actors for some great performances as they all did a great job with them. You could feel the emotion as you watched it and it made you cry for them. Also loved the throwback to the first movie and Casey pressing the lever. I thought his line was delivered just fine and he did it obviously in contempt of Shredder as someone else just said. Overall, a sad but brilliant episode nonetheless. Next episode, it's about to go down for REAL! __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

02-19-2017, 07:32 AM	#21
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	Wow that was something.

02-19-2017, 07:33 AM	#22
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,042	Wow. I have no criticisms. Just a legitimately well-done episode. Nice use of foreshadowing and all the characters were well-done. Hell, even the two references were quite good. For the first time since the second season, I think I'm gonna immediately watch this episode again now. Well done.

02-19-2017, 07:44 AM	#26
Cyndaquilfan123 Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 174	Wow. Just wow. Splinter is dead!?!?! Did Leatherhead drown Rahzaar?

02-19-2017, 07:49 AM	#29
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Oh man, if you didn't cry, you have no soul. That was rough. Brutal episode. I'm at a loss for words. I was having such a fun morning (I went back and watched The Gauntlet, Showdown, and Tale of The Yokai) and now I'm gonna be bummed all day. RIP Splinter and best wishes to Hoon Lee. Dude is insanely talented. Looking forward to seeing him in Iron Fist.

02-19-2017, 08:13 AM	#34
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	Also I think this might be the first kids cartoon to say the D word and then immediately carry it out right afterward... O_O SAVAGERY __________________ Fav Quote - 87 Leo: "TURTLES FIGHT WITH HONOUR!" Fav Series - 2012 Nickelodeon Fav Game - Out of the Shadows Fav Comic - IDW Series Fav Movie - Liebesman's TMNT (2014)

02-19-2017, 08:13 AM	#35
Unworthy tinker Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stuck inside of a dimensional rift Posts: 325	Hands down, best episode since The Invasion. No other episode if the 2012 series had brought me this close to crying (well, maybe Tale of the Yokai), until now. The reference to Carter was random. I personally never really hated the character, but it is still an odd choice to reference one of the most hated characters in the franchise. The only reason I can see for this reference could be a sign that Nick's Red sky/FF&BTTS era is coming. When you think about it, season five is just that. It'll have actual arcs, but probably won't tie into the first four seasons much. It's a shift in direction, I suppose. Or it's just taking a jab at the 80's series and I'm overthinking it. Probably isn't foreshadowing. I actually like Casey saying "Oops". It showed how pissed off he was while conveying the character's personality, and it didn't really come off as stupid (to me anyways). Can we at least agree that it was better than the controversial "This is awesome!" In Annihilation: Earth? I liked early Casey since he cared about some things and had his deeper moments, but of course he became less likeable in more recent years. However, I feel like he's actually been more tolerable since The Power Inside her. Here though, he was dare I say, actually kind of badass? And finally, the big one. I thought that Splinter had fake died too many times for it to still bring me to tears. I was mistaken. I was sad when he fell, had trouble keeping it together during the flashbacks, then lost it when Mikey said "Papa". __________________ I have big silvers, little silvers, and I can make it rain copper, daddy. Social medias

02-19-2017, 08:21 AM	#36
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	Yeah the 'Papa' line... Well played Brandon Auman (or whoever made that specific writing decision) I cried. Again. __________________ Fav Quote - 87 Leo: "TURTLES FIGHT WITH HONOUR!" Fav Series - 2012 Nickelodeon Fav Game - Out of the Shadows Fav Comic - IDW Series Fav Movie - Liebesman's TMNT (2014)

02-19-2017, 08:22 AM	#37
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	So I couldn't fathom a 7 day wait and went ahead and watched Owari in Korean. Won't spoil anything, but I just want to say: FUC* YOU NICKELODEON SCHEDULING DEPARTMENT! This plays so good as a 2 parter, and the last 3 seasons have all followed the same formula. Then again, knowing the simpletons that work on scheduling, maybe it's simply Ciro and Company's fault for not just calling them Owari parts 1 and 2.

02-19-2017, 08:23 AM	#38
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,042	Even aside from the "oops" part, Casey was really good in this episode. If that doesn't show how great the other characters were, I don't know what does. He felt like the character they introduced in the second season years ago. Just some kid, but surprisingly competent. Even the one joke he told was pretty good. I f*cking loved that Carter reference. It worked in the context of the scene and came right out of nowhere. Nice touch.

02-19-2017, 08:25 AM	#39
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	Also, is this the first time the Turtles cried in this series? I remember in the 2003 series they cried like every other episode... __________________ Fav Quote - 87 Leo: "TURTLES FIGHT WITH HONOUR!" Fav Series - 2012 Nickelodeon Fav Game - Out of the Shadows Fav Comic - IDW Series Fav Movie - Liebesman's TMNT (2014)

02-19-2017, 08:28 AM	#40
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	Watching now. Laughed way to hard at the Carter reference. Expected Super Shredder to say "Then so be it!" When Karai said they'd all die in the warehouse fight. Let's see how this all plays out. EDIT: man...what a gut punch. Though the garbage truck and Casey's, "Oops." Had me cheering. Next week is going to be wicked. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 02-19-2017 at 08:41 AM.