06-02-2018, 03:34 PM | #361 |
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The series won't sell enough to continue with new issues from scratch. It's why it ended in the first place. And the comic book market now in 2019+ is even worse than it was in 1998-1999 when they originally planned to end it. We're lucky we're even getting 3 new issues as it is.
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06-02-2018, 08:13 PM | #362 | |
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Although, say it sells better than TMNT Universe? Hard to conjure a reason why they wouldn’t keep it going, assuming they can work out a pay rate with the creators. |
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06-02-2018, 09:12 PM | #363 |
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Looking at the numbers, it looks like sales began around 16,000 in 1996 and dropped to about 5,000 by around #21 in 1999.
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06-04-2018, 10:45 AM | #364 |
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From what I read, it also doesn’t help there were delays and what not that ruined sells.
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06-07-2018, 08:42 AM | #366 |
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A little too soon to tell, man. #1 issues always skew high. Wait a few months.
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06-07-2018, 09:55 AM | #367 |
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IDW's release of The Maxx: Maxximized was the same deal as Urban Legends (recolors of decades old material released monthly) and ran about the same length of time that Urban Legends is planned to (35 issues rather than 26, but close).
Wasn't a huge seller, but IDW stuck it out and completed the run. The Color Classics for Mirage Vol. 1 weren't big sellers either, but they always completed the arcs they went for. I'm not too worried about Urban Legends getting canned early. And in regards to Urban Legends #1, I picked my copy up last Saturday and was really impressed with the colors, especially on the page where Raph reveals his hamburger face. This looks WAY better than the Color Classics stuff, though I kind of expected it to. This run will definitely be worth double-dipping. |
06-07-2018, 10:21 AM | #368 |
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The colors were fantastic. With some of the black and white issues I have, I didn’t enjoy them quite as much. The color definitely accentuates the horror that happened to Raph’s Face and Donatello being shot.
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06-09-2018, 10:24 PM | #369 |
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TMNT Vol. 3 ran almost 2 years as a monthly title from Image and almost its final year went bi-monthly. It wasn't delays but more of a tactic to try to keep the title running instead. Though I think Eastman & Laird helped put money into the book to keep it afloat. Eventually Erik Larson told them it wasn't worth their efforts anymore with the poor sales numbers.
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06-11-2018, 10:48 AM | #370 |
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You also have to wonder if comic fans were in a strange place with TMNT at the time. Perhaps there was an element of betrayal or over-saturation from the comic book community. The 90's were bringing in fresh and edgy characters aimed at teenagers. Although this book adapted to that path, maybe it was too late in the eyes of that audience. The turtles were on lunchboxes, backpacks, and probably even diapers. Was the franchise entering it's first "downtime" era?
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06-11-2018, 11:40 AM | #371 |
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Yeah, by the mid/late 90's the original TMNT fad was pretty much dead and all the original kid fans were early teenagers. Likewise most of the adult Mirage fans probably lost interest by then.
I was only like 12 when Image came out, so I got whatever issues I could because my TMNT interest never died. Same reason Next Mutation bombed at the time because TMNT was "uncool" back then. It made sense to wait till the early 2000's to revive TMNT again with Volume 4 and the 2k3 series. |
06-12-2018, 09:26 AM | #372 |
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I think the numbers began to fall because they kept mutilating the turtles. I remember collecting the book as it was being released and people at my shop would talk about how the book didn't feel like a real TMNT book. I think the term 'gore porn' was thrown around.
I didn't agree with that sentiment, but I do remember hearing it. I always liked the Image series. I remember loving the two issues where the Dragon appeared. |
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But yeah, given that the writing may have already been on the wall...
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06-12-2018, 11:13 AM | #375 | |
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Or maybe you mean neither of those things. Personally, I really liked the lost limbs, and other visual changes to the characters (Other than Donatello - cool concept, but the design was very abrasive, and, frankly, ugly) . I know to a lot of people, that sort of thing comes off as "shock value" or a shallow attempt to be edgy, but that's sort of what I like about this comic - you never really knew what to expect. |
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06-12-2018, 11:15 AM | #376 | |
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Cyborg Donatello > Micro Donatello Two Face Raphael > Gamera Raphael
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Saban was also trying to bring in new TMNT fans with TNM but it didn't work as the popularity of the TMNT was fading. To reiterate the only people who would want to tune into the TNM were fans who had grown up with Volume 1 and the FW series but the show was just too childish to watch. Just speaking from my own experience growing up. |
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06-16-2018, 10:50 AM | #378 |
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Preview for issue 002. https://13thdimension.com/exclusive-...ban-legends-2/
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06-16-2018, 06:09 PM | #379 |
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I got my issue early. I'm enjoying seeing these in color.
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06-20-2018, 05:42 AM | #380 |
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Does "Weasel" ever come back or did Gary Carlson just hate Wolverine? Because outside of establishing that Komodo was looking for some hybrid, that seemed pretty pointless.
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