DC Relaunching AGAIN

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I read the new issue of Aquaman today. Already it's leagues better than Cullen's ill-fated run. Mera's replica Aquaman costume though

i tried to stay with Aquaman just a few issues into the Cullen run.
it was pretty gawd awful! dropped it like a hot potato!

[ZariusTwo]

Newsarama lists the top ten worst New 52/DC YOU titles

http://www.newsarama.com/28141-worst...c-you-era.html

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Newsarama lists the top ten worst New 52/DC YOU titles

http://www.newsarama.com/28141-worst...c-you-era.html

as much as i love Andy Kubert’s art, his writing is pretty awful!

but the four-issue miniseries of Damien: Son of Batman was part of The New 52 or DC You.
it was actually supposed to be a spin off from the pre-flashpoint Grant Morrison saga.

just goes to show of the validity of some of these on-line articles.

my personal opinion, 'Convergence' deserved the #1 spot!

it brought back many hopeful people that had given up DC after the New 52, (and aside from Lois & Clark) gave them garbage!

[ZariusTwo]

DC told the writers to "pitch anything" for Rebirth...regardless of whether it was a reboot, refresh or not. Now the creative talents admit they're confused.


http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/...-the-creators/

Meanwhile, the consequences of Convergence spill over into GL#50 as Paralax comes calling

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/...en-lantern-50/

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

DC told the writers to "pitch anything" for Rebirth...regardless of whether it was a reboot, refresh or not. Now the creative talents admit they're confused.


http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/...-the-creators/

not a good sign!

[CyberCubed]

I think DC needs to trash all its comics.

[ZariusTwo]

Wow. Gail Simone has to come up with her own headcanon for Hipster Babs or it does'nt even work for her

http://gailsimone.tumblr.com/post/14...er-babs-is-its

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

DC told the writers to "pitch anything" for Rebirth...regardless of whether it was a reboot, refresh or not. Now the creative talents admit they're confused.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/...-the-creators/

So... sounds like upper management/editorial at DC is planning all this about as well as they did the New 52, huh?

I still want to root for this to work out, and Geoff Johns talked a good game in that video, pretty much admitting that they fumbled the ball with the New 52... But I just really don't trust DC's track record at this point. And I know I'm far from alone.

Y'know, I desperately want to read a "Marvel: The Untold Story"-style behind-the-scenes account of the past 10+ years or so at DC. I'm sure that'd be interesting.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Wow. Gail Simone has to come up with her own headcanon for Hipster Babs or it does'nt even work for her

http://gailsimone.tumblr.com/post/14...er-babs-is-its

I'm one of the people who actually likes Hipster Babs, but I have to take it as its own thing entirely. Like an "Ultimate Batgirl". That version of the character would have worked a lot better as a full reboot, instead of directly following a run that tried to keep the character's full history relatively intact. It just doesn't feel like it "fits" the way they're presenting it. Still really like the tone and the art and the design, though.

I definitely agree with the questioner at the link, though -- with a little tweaking, the current run would be great as a Steph series.

[myconius]

so much of The New 52 wasn't about changing the characters because they has some inspired re-invention for the characters.

a lot of it just felt random! change just for the sake of being different, even though it was gawd awful!

and this talk about bringing the price down to $2.99 is pretty bogus when the double-ship titles will be snatching $5.98 out from peoples pockets each month.

and the quality (or lack of) that i've seen of weekly titles, they just deteriorate more and more over time.

[ZariusTwo]

I'd have probably been way more on board with it if it had been a Steph series, instead of just liking it for a bit then dropping off. I also hated how it handled Dick and Babs' reunion after Dick revealed he was alive (Dick and Kori's reunion was a lot better), since it just came after Gail's great finale to the Dick/Babs relationship drama in Convergence and felt like a kick in the balls.

[Bry]

Yeah, I really liked that send-off too. Simone has such a great handle on Babs, so if she says something feels "off" then I definitely trust that. Her read on it makes a lot of sense -- Burnside Babs reads a lot younger than she has in a very long time, so taking it as a "young Batgirl" reboot makes the most sense there.

Acually, I like what they were going for with a lot of DCYou. Gotham Academy, Black Canary, Starfire... I know they're not for everyone, but they have a lot of charm and feel pretty fresh to me, especially compared to DC's previous Grimdark Everything approach. But they were trying to draw in an audience that they had just completely turned off with the New 52, and the abrupt tonal shift turned off a lot of their current audience. If they would have given the reboot more thought and care to begin with, maybe they could have had a more diverse, successful lineup. Instead, they managed to basically disappoint everyone.

[myconius]

the only problem with Gail Simone trying to fit misshapen pieces like that, is Batgirl of Burnside is a LOT dippier than Batgirl Year One.

but i guess that says something for the writing talents of Scott Beatty & Chuck Dixon opposed to Cameron Stewart & Brenden Fletcher!

[ZariusTwo]

Apparently the latest issue of Batgirl "undid" a few things, including Killing Joke.

[ZariusTwo]

If Leo were here, he'd be purring...

Dan Jurgens to write the bi-weekly Action Comics?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...mics-biweekly/

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Apparently the latest issue of Batgirl "undid" a few things, including Killing Joke.

WOW!!!!! I can't believe that!!!!! Killing Joke has been such a big part of the Batman and Batgirl/Oracle Origin.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

If Leo were here, he'd be purring...

Dan Jurgens to write the bi-weekly Action Comics?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...mics-biweekly/

that's probably one of the best bits on news they've posted!

[thundermaster612]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think DC needs to trash all its comics.

agreed sir

[ZariusTwo]

Jim Lee talks a bit about Rebirth in a new interview from the In Store Convention Kick-Off

“It’s not a reboot, it’s really a relaunch, creatively it’s looking at the entire line… taking elements of the DC Mythology maybe not seen in the New 52 and bringing them back… we have really high hopes, it’s amazing to see the covers come in the new writers come in, sitting down with Geoff Johns and spending hours focusing on the characters… It’s going to be very character driven. Discovering what makes them unique and exciting and different from each other.”

He also confirms the writer joining him on Suicide Squad is Martian Manhunter's Rob Wiliams

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...nstorekickoff/

Dan Didio confirms that continuity is back in a big way with Rebirth, there's also a confirmation of a Rebirth-exclusive previews mag for June solits

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...nstorekickoff/

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Jim Lee talks a bit about Rebirth in a new interview from the In Store Convention Kick-Off



He also confirms the writer joining him on Suicide Squad is Martian Manhunter's Rob Wiliams

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...nstorekickoff/

Dan Didio confirms that continuity is back in a big way with Rebirth, there's also a confirmation of a Rebirth-exclusive previews mag for June solits

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...nstorekickoff/

80 pages for $2.99???

i'll definitely have to pick up a copy of that Rebirth Special!

i'm still on the fence about exactly which regular titles i want to pick up?

bet Jim Lee only stays on Suicide Squad for one story-arc before bailing?

[ZariusTwo]

Superman vs Muhamad Ali to be remade, with Harley Quinn taking Ali's place. Neil Adams is on board for this one.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/...onkickoff2016/