Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 24: Tale of Tigerclaw

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, a post like this and you say you're not trolling? This episode gave backstory to one of the main villains, introduced a new character like Alopex and had the villains arm chopped off which will directly affect Tiger Claw's character going forward.

Some of the jokes did fall flat, but otherwise all the story elements made up for it.

There were other things as well, Takeshi is Tiger Claws real name, Tiger Claw possibly killed there parents, Alopex probably forced to kill people.

So I don't know why people are complaining that weren't much stuff between Alopex and Tiger Claw, we still got season 5 yet.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

There were other things as well, Tiger Claw possibly killed there parents, Alopex probably forced to kill people.

So I don't know why people are complaining that weren't much stuff between Alopex and Tiger Claw, we still got season 5 yet.

It's just the usual trolls, I have no idea why they hang out in the Nick section to bash a show they clearly don't enjoy. And saying episodes that are actually plot-oriented as a "waste of time" shows they don't know what they want.

[oldmanwinters]

It was a small thing, but I really liked the camera capturing all the chaotic antics when Casey was running towards the mystic blade. Raphael sacrificially leaping to take a bullet for him, Michelangelo playing the role of blocker, explosions and laser blasts all around him... it reminded me of something out of a war movie... or at least a slow motion football run/tackle sequence.

[matteso586]

It appears that April has premonition powers now.

And before any of you users bring up what Tiger Claw said in his debut episode, Brandon Auman said on Instagram that he may have fibbed about the rival's gender.

[ToTheNines]

A metal hand, the greatest sign of character development there is!

I actually really enjoyed this episode for the great action (TigerClaw and Alopex in Chinatown) and humor (Boozing Splinter). But Aaronardo laid it out pretty well. They left out way too much detail of their falling out. Pretty big mistake for an episode coming 2 years late.

But hey, we do know Alopex is coming back in season 5. Still time to clear all this up.

[CyberCubed]

I do agree this ep should have happened back in Season 3 at least. Would have been nice to have Alopex around earlier in the series too.

Also with Alopex being brown now she's even more of a Ninjara expy than she was before.

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, a post like this and you say you're not trolling? This episode gave backstory to one of the main villains, introduced a new character like Alopex and had the villains arm chopped off which will directly affect Tiger Claw's character going forward.

Some of the jokes did fall flat, but otherwise all the story elements made up for it.

Thank you for summarising what happened. I did in fact watch it myself but I appreciate your recap.

Unfortunate that none of what happened was done well or engaging. It suffered from the BAD Michael Bay and Last Airbender (movie) syndrome where a lot of things 'happen' but aren't delved deep into. We call it chess piece storytelling.

Why did Tiger Claw do the things he did in his backstory? Why should we care now that Alopex is back when there are way more important plot threads such as Turtles Vs Super Shredder?

What the f#ck was the point of Casey being cursed?

And exactly how is Tiger Claw getting his arm cut off going to affect his CHARACTERISATION moving forward? Not sure what his "Lesson" was there...

None of this actually matters, even if it isn't filler, which is why this episode was a complete waste of time.

[Vicky82]

I wonder if Tiger Claw will lose a leg next season, he could be this version of 2K3 Baxter Stockman

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Why did Tiger Claw do the things he did in his backstory? Why should we care now that Alopex is back when there are way more important plot threads such as Turtles Vs Super Shredder?

Why did Tiger Claw do the things in his backstory? If you're referring to why Tiger Claw/Alopex started hating each other, it's most likely going to be expanded upon during Alopex's next appearance.

If you're referring to everything else like them joining the circus and then becoming assassin's, that was all well explained. They were outcasts among society, and did the only thing mutants can do.

What the f#ck was the point of Casey being cursed?

A fun subplot for comedy.

And exactly how is Tiger Claw getting his arm cut off going to affect his CHARACTERISATION moving forward? Not sure what his "Lesson" was there...

Are you joking? A character gets his arm chopped off and you're wondering if that will affect his character going forward? Of course his personality/character is going to be affected by it, as are his and Alopex's next meeting.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

There were other things as well, Takeshi is Tiger Claws real name, Tiger Claw possibly killed there parents, Alopex probably forced to kill people.

So I don't know why people are complaining that weren't much stuff between Alopex and Tiger Claw, we still got season 5 yet.

Now we know TigerClaw's real name, But I don't remember if Alopex's real name was mention?

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

And exactly how is Tiger Claw getting his arm cut off going to affect his CHARACTERISATION moving forward? Not sure what his "Lesson" was there...

I could spoil it for you if you want

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Now we know TigerClaw's real name, But I don't remember if Alopex's real name was mention?

No he just called her Alopex

[oldmanwinters]

I was surprised Alopex didn't just cut off his hand, but seemingly took off almost everything below his shoulder. Her blades must be plenty sharp to be able to make that deep a cut in one motion. Or maybe she's just that good?

[Vegita-San]

perfect example of the shows weird writing..

It starts off with a drunken splinter of all things, trying to teach some odd lesson about ingenuity.

It gets completely forgotten about until the end, and only to show that splinter was right and casey had none to go on, and the others needed to help him along.

what was the point of that? casey didn't come away with any lesson learned.

and then at the end it goes all serious on us and violent to boot.

feels like two different people writing one show.

heh, i also saw they changed the intro again, something i usually skip. Shigami (sp) is in it..someone set up to be this big bad... but after three or so appearances, she's gone and it's like she was never there...

ugh..this show.

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I could spoil it for you if you want



No he just called her Alopex

I've seen the leaked episodes.

Nothing changed. It's the same as him getting his tail cut off, it serves no purpose for his actual character beside a grudge against Alopex.

Now they basically done the same thing, except this time it literally has zero effect on his character OR character dynamic with Alopex.

Even if it did, once again I have to reiterate : WHO GIVES A SH!T? Alopex is a complete non-factor as of current plot threads.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

It starts off with a drunken splinter of all things, trying to teach some odd lesson about ingenuity.

Do you have any idea of what you're talking about? The drunken battle master is a real combat technique, it's used all the time in real life, karate films and fighting videogames like Mortal Kombat.

Just because you're ignorant of what that was, doesn't mean the rest of us are.

and then at the end it goes all serious on us and violent to boot.

feels like two different people writing one show.
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Or maybe you can't comprehend this show has always mixed humor with subtle darkness since the beginning.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I was surprised Alopex didn't just cut off his hand, but seemingly took off almost everything below his shoulder. Her blades must be plenty sharp to be able to make that deep a cut in one motion. Or maybe she's just that good?

Also remember that she being a speedster managed to do it quickly.

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Or maybe you can't comprehend this show has always mixed humor with subtle darkness since the beginning.

sometimes, trying to put elements of humor into a dark, serious episode just ruins the whole mood of the episode...

thinking back on it, thats probably why i dont view the season 3 finale as being that great overall, dont get me wrong, its a good episode but doesnt have any spark like some other episodes

[drag0nfeathers]

Being a huge fan of Alopex from IDW I was bummed I had to work today just as it started and still haven't watched it. Nonetheless I had to drop in and read some spoilers here.

Sounds like a pretty interesting episode from what I've read here thus far! I get out of here in a couple hours and my DVR awaits. I swear if the blizzard we are having screws up my recording there will be hell to pay. I'm really excited to watch it even with the clashing reviews and I'm 95% sure I'll greatly enjoy it. Even if it had some comedy elements, Nick probably has to keep some of that in there to skirt around the fact they apparently showed Tiger Claw get his hand chopped off... A dash of silliness to counter the serious shock and awe so they can keep showing us decent episodes that don't get ripped off the air for giving 7 year olds nightmares but still keep us adults entertained.

As for the lack of story development... I can't expect much squashed into one episode. Hopefully they delve more deeply into the history of Alopex later, but chances are good they won't and they will leave that for the audience to imagine on their own.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

I've seen the leaked episodes.

Nothing changed. It's the same as him getting his tail cut off, it serves no purpose for his actual character beside a grudge against Alopex.

Now they basically done the same thing, except this time it literally has zero effect on his character OR character dynamic with Alopex.

Even if it did, once again I have to reiterate : WHO GIVES A SH!T? Alopex is a complete non-factor as of current plot threads.

It's still interesting.

Before getting all messed up due to the Wormquake ep, Tigerclaw was more "honorable". After that, he wasn't so much. He even attacked a blind man. I couldn't see him doing that when debuting.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of this, to see if he becomes more corrupted given his being around Shredder, and wanting revenge. I want to know if he killed his parents, based on what Alopex said.

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

It's still interesting.

Before getting all messed up due to the Wormquake ep, Tigerclaw was more "honorable". After that, he wasn't so much. He even attacked a blind man. I couldn't see him doing that when debuting.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of this, to see if he becomes more corrupted given his being around Shredder, and wanting revenge. I want to know if he killed his parents, based on what Alopex said.

I'm glad you enjoyed it!