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Cubed, you think everything needs to be locked. Adaptation is just that. Its based on something and being translated within another format. Some are closer to the inspiration others. I prefer the 2003 cartoon takes on the Mirage stories opposed to the comics, because I am an other media centric fan. I know the super powered turtles and Sliver story-line came from Tales vol.2 did anything else get carried over from the second Tales volume? I know it was running concurrently so it would be limited.
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08-20-2017, 09:28 PM | #22 |
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Nothing much from Tales V. 2 came over, you have to remember Tales started in 2004, by then the 2k3 series had scripts through the end of Season 3 and the beginning of 4 already.
It's easy to forget Vol. 4/Tales were going on the same time as the 2k3 series, and they couldn't very well adapt material that either wasn't out yet or still being written. |
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A big glaring thing is anything whatsoever to do with Shadow
But I guess I can understand why they wouldn't cover any of that
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I think the difference is 2k3 started off with Mirage as a framework but quickly became its own thing. It was never intended to be a Mirage show, just loosely based on its concepts.
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08-20-2017, 11:37 PM | #26 |
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The guest-era stuff was unadapted (for obvious reasons), along with some of the single issue stories (The Passing, Dreams Of Stone, Distractions, etc.).
As much as I like the 2k3 series, it's adaptations left much to be desired. If they had tried to adapt some of the deeper stories, they most likely would've turned out as bad as their City At War. |
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I read Return to New York and seen the 2k3 episode I actually prefer the 2k3 adaptation over the original Mirage version. As far as City at War I did not enjoy at all that much. When I finally got to read the Mirage City at War I was incredibly disappointed, just a complete let down. I think my expectations was just to high (bc of you and everyone else on here ) My point is I think you gripe too much about the 2k3 series as a whole. It is a kids show, there is no way they could do a faithful adaptation of the source material given it was aimed at a young audience and the network and others would not allow a more graphic depiction. Insane in the Membrane is proof of that. I think they did a pretty good job given the circumstance.(season (1-4))
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If the episodes of City at War had a different name, nobody would have mind. It was never going to adapt the themes and adult storylines of the comic version. They should have done something similar to IDW and called it "Cityfall" to distinguish it and leave expectations aside.
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There wasn't enough narrative for me to support the action or the pacing of the story imo.
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What I wish they adapted, or that some TMNT TV show would adapt is my favourite Mirage issue. Vol.1 issue 11. "True Stories".
Most TMNT shows do the "Exile to Northhampton" arc, but they gloss over the emotional impact. They don't really get into the trauma they went through and the emotional healing afterwards. To me it's the emotional content (and not the violence) that makes Mirage TMNT more "mature" than other versions. Both the kinda depressing "Life at best is bitter sweet" side and the heartwarming "Life is good, and life goes on" side. I think both the 4kids and Nick versions (both of which I enjoy) really missed a golden opportunity by not adapting "True Stories" and by not touching on the emotional drama side of TMNT more often (the cop-out ending to "Sons of the Silent Age" being another example). Anyway, for what it's worth I like 4Kids "Return to NY" I think it has more variety than the Mirage version with the appearance of Foot Mystics and Cyborg Baxter (I loved that part), and other surprises and twists. I'll agree that 4Kids "City at War" wasn't that great, though. It needed to be longer and it needed to be later in the series (and after Shredder's final defeat). Still wouldn't have the impact of Mirage CaW, but even within 4kids limitations it should have been a lot better. |
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