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Old 05-09-2012, 07:16 PM   #81
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This movie WAS going to involved a "parallel dimension". It seems that Kirby and the badguy, Spyder, would be from this dimension, and the Turtles would somehow come in contact with them.

Through the magic of photoshop, I've been able to darken the photos of the scripts and sort of read through the pages. I bet if we got a few more eyes to look at this we could guess the rest of the words. Here's what I was able to make out so far:


Script from Jan '95:

FADE IN

EXT. NEW YORK SKYLINE – TWILIGHT

The Big Apple in all its traditional glory. A card reads—

“NEW YORK CITY”

IN THE FOREGROUND, eight hundred feet high, an OFFICE -----
-----. A MAN is standing on ---- sill.

He gazes down and... steps off.

Disappears hands fly xxx, snatch him by the ankles. He is xxxxx
but from his pocket fulls – a half-eaten package of XXXXX’S
XXXX.

XXXXXX WITH THE FALLING XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX down. XX XXXXXX
Xxxxxx slightly against xxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxx read:
“XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX xxxxxx

XXXXXXXX “THE Squaatttts slap ggood the xxxxxxxxxx-

- And are xxxxxxx xxxxxxx by cxxxxxxxx on leashes
PULL BACK TO REAVEL--

EXT. AN IMMENSLY CROWDED TIMES SQUARE – EVENING

The #YSKAS are pets. Taxi cabs are cicxxhxxx with their XXXXXS
locked inside s--- cages. And on every corner, MIME FACED
XXXXXXS don’t bother to hide as they demand “credit numbers at gun-point.

In other words, this is an ordinary evening –
“--IN THE PARALLEL DIMENSION”

Halting in an alley

A STRANGE CLOAKED XXXXXX suited, shadowy. The Figure moves
With xxxx purpose.

Xxxx the figure slides behind the NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY POWER
PLANT, using XXXXXXXX xxxxx in xxxxxxxx of hooks. We lose him.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX cloated figure, and he xxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx fitting unifo-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the shadow of...


------------------------------------------
Script from July '97:

FADE IN:

INT. SPYDER’S LAB - NIGHT

A dank, vaulted ----- laboratory filled with hi tech
equipment. Xxx dripping with slime and xxxing. In the corner
of the lab stands a glowering figure – MASTER SPYDER.

Spyder is --- and quick, bristling with a sleak, skin tight
MECHANICAL MUSCULATURE grafted to his body – an EMPSUIT.

Nearby are his TWO MAIN MINION – the “TECH XXXXXXS”

XXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX with a xxxxxx, stylish punk hairdo and
FIXXX XXXXX sparking from his grin. Seated at a COMPUTER
COMXXXX imxxxked directly xx via a port in his neck.

CRXXXX XXXX HULKIXXXX xxxxxx xxx drone studded with
Xxxx xxxxxx xxxxx. His xxx xxx adaptable into spy
Xxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx.

Xxxxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx covered by a velvet
Drap xxxxxxxxxxx with the xxxxxxxxxxxx. He addresses his clan of
Nxxxx xxxxxx.

SPYDER
Xxxxx xxx to my wicked genius,
Xxxx xxxxxx xxxx most powerful
Xxxxxxx xxxxxx on Earth. I
Xxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx revealing a GLASS ENCLOSED CHAMPER
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx few keystrokes and the
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx open with a blast.

SPYDER(?)
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, a
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx gain.
Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx to steal,
Xxxxx and return here in
Xxxxx demonstration

MINION(?)
(scared)
Oh no, boss, don’t make me.
Ha! Nice work, saul. That's pretty cool to know.

As awesomely bizarre as all this sounds, I can't help but think this movie was probably better off NOT having been made. There was no shortage of crummy post-apocalyptic action movies "with attitude" in the late 90s that aspired to create a world beyond what their budget and writing could accommodate. And if people thought the 3rd live-action movie was bad... just imagine.

Still... I WOULD LOVE to read those scripts!

I mean... who wouldn't be curious to read a story involving this motley crew of characters!




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Old 05-09-2012, 07:18 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by saul View Post
Spoiler:
This movie WAS going to involved a "parallel dimension". It seems that Kirby and the badguy, Spyder, would be from this dimension, and the Turtles would somehow come in contact with them.

Through the magic of photoshop, I've been able to darken the photos of the scripts and sort of read through the pages. I bet if we got a few more eyes to look at this we could guess the rest of the words. Here's what I was able to make out so far:


Script from Jan '95:

FADE IN

EXT. NEW YORK SKYLINE – TWILIGHT

The Big Apple in all its traditional glory. A card reads—

“NEW YORK CITY”

IN THE FOREGROUND, eight hundred feet high, an OFFICE -----
-----. A MAN is standing on ---- sill.

He gazes down and... steps off.

Disappears hands fly xxx, snatch him by the ankles. He is xxxxx
but from his pocket fulls – a half-eaten package of XXXXX’S
XXXX.

XXXXXX WITH THE FALLING XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX down. XX XXXXXX
Xxxxxx slightly against xxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxx read:
“XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX xxxxxx

XXXXXXXX “THE Squaatttts slap ggood the xxxxxxxxxx-

- And are xxxxxxx xxxxxxx by cxxxxxxxx on leashes
PULL BACK TO REAVEL--

EXT. AN IMMENSLY CROWDED TIMES SQUARE – EVENING

The #YSKAS are pets. Taxi cabs are cicxxhxxx with their XXXXXS
locked inside s--- cages. And on every corner, MIME FACED
XXXXXXS don’t bother to hide as they demand “credit numbers at gun-point.

In other words, this is an ordinary evening –
“--IN THE PARALLEL DIMENSION”

Halting in an alley

A STRANGE CLOAKED XXXXXX suited, shadowy. The Figure moves
With xxxx purpose.

Xxxx the figure slides behind the NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY POWER
PLANT, using XXXXXXXX xxxxx in xxxxxxxx of hooks. We lose him.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX cloated figure, and he xxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx fitting unifo-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the shadow of...


------------------------------------------
Script from July '97:

FADE IN:

INT. SPYDER’S LAB - NIGHT

A dank, vaulted ----- laboratory filled with hi tech
equipment. Xxx dripping with slime and xxxing. In the corner
of the lab stands a glowering figure – MASTER SPYDER.

Spyder is --- and quick, bristling with a sleak, skin tight
MECHANICAL MUSCULATURE grafted to his body – an EMPSUIT.

Nearby are his TWO MAIN MINION – the “TECH XXXXXXS”

XXXXXXXXX XXX XXXX with a xxxxxx, stylish punk hairdo and
FIXXX XXXXX sparking from his grin. Seated at a COMPUTER
COMXXXX imxxxked directly xx via a port in his neck.

CRXXXX XXXX HULKIXXXX xxxxxx xxx drone studded with
Xxxx xxxxxx xxxxx. His xxx xxx adaptable into spy
Xxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx.

Xxxxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx covered by a velvet
Drap xxxxxxxxxxx with the xxxxxxxxxxxx. He addresses his clan of
Nxxxx xxxxxx.

SPYDER
Xxxxx xxx to my wicked genius,
Xxxx xxxxxx xxxx most powerful
Xxxxxxx xxxxxx on Earth. I
Xxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx revealing a GLASS ENCLOSED CHAMPER
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx few keystrokes and the
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx open with a blast.

SPYDER(?)
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, a
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx gain.
Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx to steal,
Xxxxx and return here in
Xxxxx demonstration

MINION(?)
(scared)
Oh no, boss, don’t make me.


Thanks for sharing, dude.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:03 PM   #83
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Corny in way as it may be, I think if done with good costumes this movie would've been INSANELY cool. & thanks a ton OMW for the scans.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:42 PM   #84
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Corny in way as it may be, I think if done with good costumes this movie would've been INSANELY cool. & thanks a ton OMW for the scans.
I'm feeling the opposite way. I'm not sure these ever could've looked cool.

Personally, I'm glad this wasn't made. It looks like a huge mess.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #85
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Yeah, I'm wondering what the deal with all the cyborg characters. Very ridiculous.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:45 PM   #86
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Yeah, I'm wondering what the deal with all the cyborg characters. Very ridiculous.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:05 PM   #87
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"Welcome to the 90s."
& this is why I think it'd be insanely cool. I actually like all of that ridiculous cheese. Crazy costumes, rubber suits, lasers, etc.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:30 PM   #88
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True, if this was made back then it probably would be awesome...heck now it'd be kinda cool in a retro kind of way....I guess.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:37 PM   #89
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Hmm... one can only hope Kevin Eastman ran off a copy of his 4th movie scripts/notes for Michael Bay before he put them up for auction.

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Old 05-09-2012, 10:50 PM   #90
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"These Turtles are from an alien race..." and Casey Jones name will start with K, and he'll be a cyborg.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:09 PM   #91
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I still say we dodged a huge bullet with this movie. Movie 4 wasn't poetry and it wasn't even good, but it seems head and shoulders above everything I've ever read about the Kirby/Evil Sorceress/Alternate Dimensions version of the movie.
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Maybe so, but I still think if nothing else that the character designs are awesome. Could've made for a rad Melting Pot inspired TMNT comic.
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Well, I think it's fascinating as a curiosity and I want to know everything about it...

But I'm of the opinion that, no, this would have been a bad idea. It was very ambitious, but it seemed flawed on a conceptual level and there's no way they'd have had the budget to competently execute their grand ideas on the screen, especially considering the steady drop in box office between the last 3 movies.

At best, it probably would have wound up with "camp value" a decade after its release, but I doubt it would have been a genuinely good film.

Super-powered Turtles traveling to another dimension to team-up with a fifth Turtle to fight an evil sorceress that there's a 100% chance would have been portrayed by Eastman's ex-wife who was a criminally bad "actress"...

Nah. No thanks.

But I still want to read the script.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:22 AM   #94
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The idea is awful, I wouldn't even want to see it in comic book form.

It seems like when the Turtles lost their popularity by 1993 they kept trying to find some ways to "power them up," so to speak. The original cartoon did it with the mutations, the 4th movie was going to have them get powers, Image turned Don into a cyborg, and Next Mutation added Venus....

Good god. Thank god that's all over with.
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I guess I'm one of the few who pretty much likes EVERYTHING with the turtles in it to some degree. I can't help it.
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I'd give it a shot...but after the fact, I'd probably be feel it was lack luster.
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I guess I'm one of the few who pretty much likes EVERYTHING with the turtles in it to some degree. I can't help it.
You're not alone man..hell even idw is growing on me.
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It destroyed it all.

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The idea is awful, I wouldn't even want to see it in comic book form.

It seems like when the Turtles lost their popularity by 1993 they kept trying to find some ways to "power them up," so to speak. The original cartoon did it with the mutations, the 4th movie was going to have them get powers, Image turned Don into a cyborg, and Next Mutation added Venus....

Good god. Thank god that's all over with.
It destroyed it all. The 1987 show used it in 1995 but thankfully soon made away with it before it went totally out of control.
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The auction has 10 hours left with $240 being the current bid.

As much as I'd like to try, I just don't have that kind of money to spend right now.

I hope someone else in the community is keeping an eye on the thing and is willing to give it a shot! And I hope there are no snipers lurking out there...
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O man I really want to know more, from what I read here it would of rocked.
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