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Old 07-21-2018, 03:03 PM   #61
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Gunn unlike most is actually getting support. Hope Cernovich keeps feeling the pressure.
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Old 07-21-2018, 03:42 PM   #62
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It's not like Gunn having a crappy sense of humor was not unknown to Disney prior to this, his filmography is a more than a giveaway and his tweets where brought into public discourse years ago and the guy apologized and people largely seemed to accept that he'd grown up a lot since he made those tweets.

It's bizarre that Disney caved to the ridiculous figure like Cernovich.

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Stuff like this just sets horrible precedent, as well. Now the next time someone unearths from colorful tweet from any actor 10 or more years ago, the SJWs will rattle away with, "Well you guys fired James Gunn back in 2018... now you guys HAVE to fire this new person, too, and if you don't... WTF??!??"
Seriously?

You do realize that it was not the 'SJWs' that got Gunn fired it was a conspiracy theory peddling far right MAGA chud that orchestrated all of this.

All because Gunn is anti-Trump and criticized a conservative pundit. Cernovich can't possibly be that outraged by Gunn's tweets given the kinda things he regularly tweets out. This was punishing Gunn for having a difference of political opinion.

I realize that you have an agenda given a lot of threads you start on here but even as the side you defend blatantly do the kind of actions that you accuse others of you're still more scared of social justice?

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Old 07-22-2018, 03:42 AM   #63
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The general narrative at large, as I understand it:

Trump supporters mad at Gunn unearthed some ancient tweets Gunn did way back and MADE him get fired by Disney!! It's the far right's fault!

Like, that's it. That's the company line. Period.

But... why did Disney have to fire him? No, really... why? Would he have gotten fired similarly if this had been "unearthed"... say, two years ago? Or is this because of the ire spun from the SJW/#metoo movement, and pretty much every movie studio on Earth being on high alert as a result? "But Disney had no choice! The far right made it a crusade!!!" Wow, OK... what are you talking about? Who was holding a gun to Disney's head, exactly? Far, far worse folks have kept around for far worse.

And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't agree with Gunn's politics but generally enjoys his movies.
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:22 AM   #64
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You're overlooking that these tweets were unearthed six years ago and many people including SJWs came for him then but Gunn apologised and explained how he'd changed and grown up a lot since he made those tweets and generally people seemed to accept that.

That was the end of it. These people who you portray as unforgiving and love rabidly going after poor public figures and get them fired for innocent japes accepted these tweets did not represent Gunn now and let him be.

Then a section of the MAGA crowd who already didn't like Gunn for his current political views decided that him criticising Ben Shapiro was the last straw and went after him and he hasn't been the only target.

Sure, there's an element of MAGAs turning the left's morality against them. That's something the 4chan lot get a real kick out of and feature a lot in their plans. In this case they thought hey, if Disney fired Roseanne for bad tweets we'll make sure Disney does the same to Gunn otherwise we can portray them as massive hypocrites.

Thing is the two situations are only surface level similar and Cernovich is also using this to further his stupid conspiracy theories ie: why was Gunn joking about pedophilia *nudge *nudge which is far more sinister than anything done to Roseanne. You'd think Cernovich would be wary of equating what people joke about on Twitter with reality given what he routinely tweets about.

It's stupid that Disney folded on this and sets a terrible precedent of letting these idiots play them in this way simply because Gunn had a political opinion they did not like. Again, I point out it was the far right assholes that did this and yet you're still putting the blame on a group that had nothing to do with this.
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:59 AM   #65
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As of Now Dave Bautista Micheal Rooker and Sean Gunn have shown their support for James. Nothing yet from Chris Pratt or Zoe Saldana.


Also their was a petition to rehire James Gunn and it got all the signatures they needed in record time. So I am not expecting it to do anything thought it was cool.

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Old 07-22-2018, 03:00 PM   #66
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Also their was a petition to rehire James Gunn and it got all the signatures they needed in record time. So I am not expecting it to do anything thought it was cool.)
Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:21 PM   #67
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Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"
Nonsense.

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In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.
To summarize... he knew someone convicted of possessing child porn, so he's clearly knee deep in it? And the GotG movies aren't that good so who cares? Equally nonsense. Irrelevant, in this case. GotG is a pretty big hard sell on paper but he managed to do it... someone else could have easily, easily fumbled the ball.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:25 PM   #68
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Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.
Gunn wasn't Enabling Pedo Culture he made some tasteless jokes 8 years ago he owned up to them and said he was sorry.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:28 PM   #69
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I know someone who was convicted of possessing child porn (came as a bit of a shock to many of us who knew him), does that mean anything to do with me? Of course it f’ing does not. So means nothing in relation to Gunn.
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Pedo culture.
Love it.

Makes me think of this:
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In September 2015, Lane put out a video titled “Progress: Pedophilia” with the caption “The shocking truth about the left's academic and political ties with pedophilia advocacy.” It starts with a Yiannopoulos article about an obscure Gamergate critic who claimed in a 2005 private chat to be a pedophile, then goes on to make a claim that promoting pedophilia was a “hidden tenet” of the progressive movement. Lane hadn’t posted previously about pedophilia, but the video got more than 8,000 views, 10 times what his uploads typically received, and the comments section quickly filled up with appreciative voices asking Lane for more.

“Friends, with exponential growth maximum degeneracy is just around the corner. Start prepping and organizing now,” wrote one commenter.

“Good video, appreciate the digging. Keep it up,” wrote another.

From that point on, liberal ties to pedophilia became a main thread in Lane’s conspiratorial tapestry, one that could completely set him off. Ralph hosted frequent livestreams, hourlong streaming ******** sessions with contributors to his site. In a May 2016 stream, Lane got in a heated debate with another Ralph-world regular, CehBeachActual, about the future of gender-neutral bathrooms. Lane accused CehBeachActual of advocating for such facilities so he could spy on little girls.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:35 PM   #71
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This is actually kind of good news I think, it was done as a win/win situation, either they caved in and did it or they were going to be seen as hypocrites. They used the same tactics the others are using but for themselves, there's a divide in both political extremes because people are not happy with the outcome. So why is this good? It's starting a discussion that this has gone for far too long and it's abusive, no one can be held to those morally high standards and this behavior should not be tolerated, it sucks this guy had to take the bullet but if it provides a change for the future then it's good.

Who am I kidding, nothing will change.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:48 PM   #72
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I know someone who was convicted of possessing child porn (came as a bit of a shock to many of us who knew him), does that mean anything to do with me? Of course it f’ing does not. So means nothing in relation to Gunn.
Yeah, technically any Technodrome member who ever talked to Gobo around here a couple of years ago "knows someone convicted of possessing child porn." I guess we should all turn ourselves in!
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Says you. Fans and critcs say otherwise.
These so called fans and critics are sheeple who put Avatar & Transformers on a pedestal. I don’t care about them, I hold my own opinion.

The movies are mediocre at best. Star Lord is so cringe and annoying. The oldie music doesn’t help.

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Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.
This is such a terrible post that you're only making because you hate the MCU movies.
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Maybe Gunn should challenge his critics to a dance-off...?

Why do people care this much about the so called integrity of the MCU anyway? Disney's consolidated its stranglehold on a huge chunk of media capital, pop culture, and entertainment, as well as the money, influence, and resources that go along with it, and people are jazzed just because that means the X-Men and the Avengers can be in a film together.
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Maybe Gunn should challenge his critics to a dance-off...?

Why do people care this much about the so called integrity of the MCU anyway? Disney's consolidated its stranglehold on a huge chunk of media capital, pop culture, and entertainment, as well as the money, influence, and resources that go along with it, and people are jazzed just because that means the X-Men and the Avengers can be in a film together.
Being worried about GotG3 isn't the right thing to focus on. Gunn will be fine, he'll bounce off. And sure, no Gunn means most likely Guardians 3 will be mediocre, but it's just a movie it's not the point to focus.

This whole case is setting a dangerous precedent by validating Cernovich and far-right conspiracy ********

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Yeah, technically any Technodrome member who ever talked to Gobo around here a couple of years ago "knows someone convicted of possessing child porn." I guess we should all turn ourselves in!
I was about to post the same thing.
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And sure, no Gunn means most likely Guardians 3 will be mediocre,
The Guardians movies were always mediocre.

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This is such a terrible post that you're only making because you hate the MCU movies.
I'm not, but sure, go with that narrative, whatever helps you sleep at night, just know that the advantage in the real world goes to me.

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You're attacking me for standing against abuse enablers because I don't like movies you like.

Advantage In Real Life: Me.
How did I attack you? How is he enabling actual abuse?
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It's extra hilarious that this sudden virtue signal in the sky is born from the same people who gave us the harassment machine that was gamerdorf.
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It's extra hilarious that this sudden virtue signal in the sky is born from the same people who gave us the harassment machine that was gamerdorf.
There's definitely hypocrisy in the air.

On another forum, I saw someone say something along the lines of "The Right have joined in/played off of the Left's naivete and need for moral impurity". I found that to be quite astute an observation.

I haven't been taking a stand one way or another with this situation, the Roseanne one, or anything else related to people losing their jobs for saying insensitive things this year. I've just been watching from afar like most people.

I think there's a very vocal group that decided they were offended by every little thing said by people they don't like. Now, the other radical side has decided to play too. That's the way I see it, but I'm always open to having my mind changed.

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