Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 23: Tokka vs The World

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Must suck hating on someone that did an identical scene better with more emphasis on the Turtles' comraderie and identity rather than a quick throwaway jab that makes their incarnation's Turtles look like d!cks.

Looks like someone can't take a joke. Lighten up.

Good episode overall.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I am confused. Did it air or not? I didn't see it pop up on my DVR. Its set to record any new episodes of TMNT 2012. I am at church when new episodes air so I wouldn't know.

Yes, it aired. TMNT > Church anyway.

[ToTheNines]

한국말 할 줄 아니?

[THGhost]

It's good to have this show back at last to finish the season off through February. Lookin' forward to watching it.

Why did this episode and the next one air in December in South Korea? That's nuts.

[CyberCubed]

Because Nick held these episodes back for 2 months for some reason. All of Season 4 should have ended by late December.

[VaughnMichael]

I enjoyed the episode quit a bit until the ending.
It just seems odd to me that Tokka wouldn't just take the baby and leave regardless of seeing how much Raph loves her baby.
I mean of course them doing this is going to add another level to Raphs character.
But it almost makes Tokkas trip to Earth seem a bit pointless.
I think my favorite thing about the episode was seeing Bishop back and all of the Kraang Technology being used by the government.
Regardless I'm very happy that the show is back.
I can't wait for the next episode, should be a great one!

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yes, it aired. TMNT > Church anyway.

I will just catch it on the internet tomorrow since it wasn't advertised and didn't
tape. We already now how it all ends anyway.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yes, it aired. TMNT > Church anyway.

You heathen!!! May the powers of Christ compel you!

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

http://facepalm.motifake.com/image/d...1259858393.jpg

I will just catch it on the internet tomorrow since it wasn't advertised and didn't
tape. We already now how it all ends anyway.

*still waiting*

[TMNTInsighter]

While this is definitely a contender for best episode of the season alongside "Darkest Plight" and "Cosmic Ocean", I found myself not caring that it aired. This whole hiatus mess; Nines, Vicky, etc. acting like a bunch of babies about us talking about the international airing; Jester going full blown tyrant over the whole thing like it wasn't much ado about zero; etc. etc. absolutely ruined it. That being said...

"Tokka vs the World" is surprisingly a wonderful character episode from all players involved: Raphael, Chompy, Casey, Bishop, even Tokka. In lesser hands, they would have followed the route many of us anticipated by including Slash and having him react to Raph's new pet and how he feels about him in accordance to the situation. Instead, they justified Raphael not only becoming Chompy's new guardian but Raph's care and attitude towards pets and those he cares for in general. The episode practically becomes a story of redemption for Raphael after what transpired in "Slash and Destroy." Gavin did a good job in "Slash and Destroy" as portraying Raphael as the (unintentional) villain of that piece, filling Slash's head with enough vitriol against his family, so that after Raph and his creation came to blows, it was time for Slash to leave and find his own way. This time, Gavin portrays Raph's more positive qualities--while also keeping mutagen at bay this time, including Raph being willing to give Chompy back to whom he belongs. While Bishop (who is always a joy to see) and the EPF play second fiddle in the story's long haul, they provide enough material to make this episode become reminiscent of the military vs aliens movies including "Independence Day" and "Godzilla" while also providing quite a few opportunities for the character of our protagonists to shine through such as Bishop turning on the EPF. That Tokka would be unwilling to take Chompy away from Raph against its baby's will or remove Raph as an obstacle from Chompy's affections towards her, also speaks very highly of her character. It gives Raphael's right to keep Chompy a lot of credibility. If only the Godzilla movies had this much character behind them. Overall Rating: B+ (4.5/5 stars)

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

This whole hiatus mess; Nines, Vicky, etc. acting like a bunch of babies about us talking about the international airing; Jester going full blown tyrant over the whole thing like it wasn't much ado about zero; etc. etc. absolutely ruined it. That being said...

Well, it was only fair so that those who didn't want to be spoiled to be able to frequent the season 4 thread without worrying over it. We had a thread for spoiler discussion which, imo, was a fair compromise since we didn't have any "official episode" threads to discuss them.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Well, it was only fair so that those who didn't want to be spoiled to be able to frequent the season 4 thread without worrying over it. We had a thread for spoiler discussion which, imo, was a fair compromise since we didn't have any "official episode" threads to discuss them.

Agreed. I literally don't understand what their issue is. Some of us wait for episodes to air properly.

[Utrommaniac]

"Someone get Bishop some hard liquor": The Episode.

Spoiler:

I'm kind of disappointed that the agreement between the Utroms and Earth Military went up in smoke within a single episode, though. But that's the way things go in this episode. The utilization of the Kraang ships and weaponry was great, and even the change from purple to blue was a pretty good touch. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.

I loved the amount of maturity Raphael showed, though. Practically an overflowing well of maturity. In earlier seasons, I think he would have stubbornly refused to give Chompy up, but the moment he saw Tokka was coming he basically said "Well, what must be done, be done, even though it makes me a little sad". And even in getting to keep him, he was still pretty graceful.

This is pretty much the kind of episode I like seeing in this iteration, and stands out among a lot of the lesser stories that drag it down.

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

...Some of us wait for episodes to air properly.

Some of you are fools then. Had to be said.
Plus, you need to be more careful about what you say in this politically correct day and age. A Korean or some civil rights minded person would accuse you of referring to only the English language episode as 'proper.'
I mean, this is not an issue! Who cares if it's Korean, Spanish, English, or silent? It aired, we had access to it on the internet, we're viewers and consumers who were also being cheated by this stupid company, it's our right to talk about it! Some of us aren't going to wait up on you because you wouldn't take advantage of Korea and those who uploaded those episodes. Your issue is much ado about nothing and I, as a viewer and consumer, will continue to exercise my right of talking about this series and the TMNT however I please.

P.S. Utrommaniac, you didn't have to use spoiler tags (this time).

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

Some of you are fools then. Had to be said.

Dude, what on earth is your problem? Because we didn't want to watch the eps in Korean we're "fools?" The hell? Didn't you get banned a few weeks ago for making arrogant posts like this?

I'm not going to watch a show in a foreign language. I had no problem waiting till now for the eps.

[TMNTInsighter]

Jester, the head moderator here, is a disgrace! He goes after the wrong people, he caved when guys like you and Nines were acting like a bunch of foolish babies throwing temper tantrums over nothing, and he's a tyrant who makes the last three presidents (Bush, Obama, and Trump) seem fair in comparison. That's why I was on vacation the last couple of weeks and your recent posts show why you shouldn't be talking to Koreans, non-English speakers, or someone with civil rights on their minds.

[GK Punk]

And with that, you just unlocked one of the secret final bosses.

Spoiler, it's me.

Looking through your post history you clearly have no interest in actual discussion of the series and you're acting beyond childish by attacking members and moderators alike. I'm leaving your final fate up to Jester who frequents here a lot more than I am able to these days, but for now you're banned.

[Vicky82]

I'm confused, since when was I acting like a baby, I watched the
Korean episodes

[ToTheNines]

Edit: thanks GK.

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I'm confused, since when was I acting like a baby, I watched the
Korean episodes

He lost his **** when you politely asked everyone to be considerate of those of us that were holding out.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Edit: thanks GK.



He lost his **** when you politely asked everyone to be considerate of those of us that were holding out.

This confused me too. Vicky was very polite. Cubed was slightly overbearing. ^^

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Looks like someone can't take a joke. Lighten up.

I mean...I took this show pretty well for 2 seasons