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Old 05-09-2017, 04:30 PM   #601
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I didn't read Mirage stories because I was 2 years old when they came out and I didn't get much info on them when I got older because I live in the UK.

I grew up watching the 80s show and the original movies.

When I first got the internet in 2000, I did look up all the Mirage stories from that old tmnt site (which sadly doesn't exist anymore) and there were some of the stories that I was interested in and when the 2003 show came out, I was glad it was based on Mirage.

I would of liked to have got vol 1 and 2 of the Mirage comics but not the image vol 3 because it's non cannon and not Mirage vol 4 because what i've read about them doesn't appeal to me.

I do like IDW comics and i'm hoping there will be a show based on it in the future.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:32 PM   #602
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Its not the mirage comic, but the 80s cartoon. Against the forum rules to bash but people do it alot anyway, its pretty fasionable here now. Mirage on the other hand is held sacred, so best not to speak any less than positive opinions on it (unless you want to make some enemies).
The rule isn't enforced because it's counterproductive to have rules against opinions. That and it's kind of hard to, you know, find an adult who thinks axing post-production is an acceptable form of corner cutting. The FW cartoon just isn't the type of thing most people would think holds up after 30+ years.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:35 PM   #603
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The rule isn't enforced because it's counterproductive to have rules against opinions. That and it's kind of hard to, you know, find an adult who thinks axing post-production is an acceptable form of corner cutting. The FW cartoon just isn't the type of thing most people would think holds up after 30+ years.
Judging by what keeps the peace around here, the rule against FW bashing should be removed and replaced with a rule against criticizing Mirage.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:38 PM   #604
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I liked the 80s series but not the red sky seasons. I didn't enjoy the red sky episodes.
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Taking a jab at a unfunny joke is FW bashing and Mirage Purist snobbery?

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Old 05-09-2017, 04:43 PM   #606
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Judging by what keeps the peace around here, the rule against FW bashing should be removed and replaced with a rule against criticizing Mirage.
Well to be fair, there's a lot less to criticise about Mirage. There are bad stories to be sure but they were never bad because someone demanded 47 issues per year or a writer pretended "X and Y Pizza is totally tubular, dudes" was funny enough to repeat over and over again.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:44 PM   #607
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ahh, but to alot of people Fred Wolf Turtles IS the Mirage of the Turtle Verse and sacred.


Mind...blown. pew pew pew .
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:48 PM   #608
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Thank you. I have nothing against people criticizing the 80s toon and offering their opinions.

Its only when people start complaining about how pizza, bebop and technodrome have ruined tmnt that it gets childish. Eveb more than the people who actually like pizza, bebop and technodrome.
More accuate for me is really tired of seeing it crop up. REALLY tired of it I'll quote a line here and there and I do like the references but much like Sonic and Green Hill Zone. It's not nostalgia if it's the norm.
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ahh, but to alot of people Fred Wolf Turtles IS the Mirage of the Turtle Verse and sacred.


Mind...blown. pew pew pew .
Uh, grammar? Syntax? Forgotten words? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:50 PM   #610
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but it's part of the original mirage sacred run, is it not?
It's tucked within there, sure.

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or does it not count cause it's not bloody enough?
Why would that be an indicator of quality?
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Old 05-09-2017, 04:53 PM   #611
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More accuate for me is really tired of seeing it crop up. REALLY tired of it I'll quote a line here and there and I do like the references but much like Sonic and Green Hill Zone. It's not nostalgia if it's the norm.
Thaaaaaat's not how nostalgia works.
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A lot just get older and older and angrier and angrier, all the while waiting for the world to bend to their whim, never, ever really being satisfied with any of the "victories" achieved at large and wondering why no one outside of whatever construct bubble they've placed themself [sic] (look, I did it!) in wants to mess with them.
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It's tucked within there, sure.



Why would that be an indicator of quality?
because if pizza references are a reference of quality for the fred wolf cartoon, something has to be for mirage. if it's not blood, maybe it's boob size...violence....beer burps per issue...

pointing out stereo types about one, it's only fair to point out stereo types about the other ..

except for PD Turtles and next mutation and the sing along videos.. i think we can all agree those just kind of flat out sucked .
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Guess there really IS a war against negativity.
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Old 05-09-2017, 05:13 PM   #614
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maybe it's boob size...
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Or maybe your onto something, only the Renet issues are good.
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quick, someone get me an image of men in tights robin hood challenging someone to a duel. that is an insult of the highest caliber sir ;o).
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:19 PM   #616
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I love Renet's tits.
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:20 PM   #617
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I love Renet's tits.
It depends on who drew her. 'Cause you could end up with this:
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As opposed to this:
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Makes a world of difference, wouldn't you agree?

Though, I personally think IDW Renet is more attractive (especially when drawn by Sophie):
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She may not be as.....well endowed in comparison, but she more than makes up for it.
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It depends on who drew her. 'Cause you could end up with this:
Jesus Christ she looks like she looks like an Arthur character
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:39 AM   #619
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Soooooo am I breaking the rules by owning Fred Wolf DVDs and Mirage hardcover books? I feel like I missed the part where I have to pick a side.

Like, I'd absolutely love to have something like Daredevil on Netflix only with the Turtles in it.

However, I'd ALSO like to see the Jhonen Vasquez TMNT short become its own series.
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Old 05-10-2017, 03:01 AM   #620
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i've always been fond of this version myself

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NCgYrEQWPu...00/chote03.jpg

although the idw version is rather nice. even if it does remind me of JLU supergirl a bit.
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