Mutant Apocalypse Speculation and wishlisting thread

[shredder orokusaki]

i with kavaxas and our demon army attacked and destroyed the world. The turtles couldnt find our demonic army! I WON! That what happend!!

[shredder orokusaki]

The same thing happend in the 2003 series where i had conqured the world in the future and karai and april were old but karai was still my servant!

[BubblyShell22]

Oh great, not this guy again!

Why can't you just stay dead already?

[victory_angel]

I can certainly see them showing or at least explaining the birth of Donnie's daughter. The only probability is that she is a test tube baby, a cloned hybrid of Donnie and April since logically they would be physically in compatible.

But we have never really seen the turtles have offspring. The only one who has really been a daddy was Mikey and all we are told is the eggs are supposedly his.

And children for first time parents can be a scary concept. I could certainly see a flashback where Donnie is pacing back and forth in worry because he doesn't know what the child will be like or if he has what it takes to even be a father. I don't think the writers would be so cold as to say April died in child birth, but that is also a probability.

[BubblyShell22]

I would say test tube baby or maybe they did some sort of IVF. Either way, this is still pretty cool if this is Donnie's kid.

[JH24]

Each time I'm looking at that picture I can't help but think the little turtle/mutant has April's eyes.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I can certainly see them showing or at least explaining the birth of Donnie's daughter. The only probability is that she is a test tube baby, a cloned hybrid of Donnie and April since logically they would be physically in compatible.

But we have never really seen the turtles have offspring. The only one who has really been a daddy was Mikey and all we are told is the eggs are supposedly his.

And children for first time parents can be a scary concept. I could certainly see a flashback where Donnie is pacing back and forth in worry because he doesn't know what the child will be like or if he has what it takes to even be a father. I don't think the writers would be so cold as to say April died in child birth, but that is also a probability.

You know, I was just thinking recently that instead of being a mutated April or an inexplicable Donnie-April offspring, that it could be some kind of clone or Donatello's idealized version of an April 2.0 (part turtle, heh). It would better explain why Donatello was keeping April's original star patch on himself as a memento.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

You know, I was just thinking recently that instead of being a mutated April or an inexplicable Donnie-April offspring, that it could be some kind of clone or Donatello's idealized version of an April 2.0 (part turtle, heh). It would better explain why Donatello was keeping April's original star patch on himself as a memento.

hmmm I don't think Donnie would change her, at least not intentionally.

..... maybe Leo or Mikey got hit with Mutagen after being in contact with a little girl and it's one of them.... just kidding, that would suck.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

You know, I was just thinking recently that instead of being a mutated April or an inexplicable Donnie-April offspring, that it could be some kind of clone or Donatello's idealized version of an April 2.0 (part turtle, heh). It would better explain why Donatello was keeping April's original star patch on himself as a memento.

It's an original theory, but I can't see Donnie do that either. He's already in love with her as she is as a human. And making a clone of April like this would be disrespecting her memory.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by JH24

It's an original theory, but I can't see Donnie do that either. He's already in love with her as she is as a human. And making a clone of April like this would be disrespecting her memory.

Maybe the clone was made by someone else and Donatello feels connected enough to her to protect her?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Maybe the clone was made by someone else and Donatello feels connected enough to her to protect her?

So maybe Verminator Rex creates her using DNA from both April and Donnie.

[Tarris Vaal]

She may not necessarily be a daughter - she could well be a mutant they've adopted, or just come across and are protecting.

I admit that given the manner Donbot was protecting her and the way Kevin Eastman answered the question in the interview (see vid earlier) I am very strongly inclined to think that is his daughter, but I dont want to jump to conclusions with such little evidence to go on.


A clone is another possibility, but I think its just simpler and more impactful for it to be their daughter. Anything else requires too much explanation. Yeah, a daughter would beg questions of 'how?! Genetically how???!' but the easy answer for the writers would be to just not answer it and leave the fans to figure it out.

To quote the great Jeff Goldblum - 'life finds a way'


Anyway - do we have any information on Verminator? Aside from his probable inclusion in this arc, do we know anything else about him?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

She may not necessarily be a daughter - she could well be a mutant they've adopted, or just come across and are protecting.

I admit that given the manner Donbot was protecting her and the way Kevin Eastman answered the question in the interview (see vid earlier) I am very strongly inclined to think that is his daughter, but I dont want to jump to conclusions with such little evidence to go on.


A clone is another possibility, but I think its just simpler and more impactful for it to be their daughter. Anything else requires too much explanation. Yeah, a daughter would beg questions of 'how?! Genetically how???!' but the easy answer for the writers would be to just not answer it and leave the fans to figure it out.

To quote the great Jeff Goldblum - 'life finds a way'


Anyway - do we have any information on Verminator? Aside from his probable inclusion in this arc, do we know anything else about him?

He is voiced by Nyanbe Nyanbe

[Tarris Vaal]

Can't find him on IMDB. Does anyone know anything else he's done? Just wondering how well my 'Evil Mikey behind the mask' theory will hold up

[Powder]

That's 'cause she's got his name wrong. It's Nyambi, not Nyanbe.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2148665/?ref_=tt_cl_t6

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Powder

That's 'cause she's got his name wrong. It's Nyambi, not Nyanbe.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2148665/?ref_=tt_cl_t6

I thought that was the case. I was typing it using my iPhone design a break at my convention job and was unable to look it up. Though my phones spell check does have some blame.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Powder

That's 'cause she's got his name wrong. It's Nyambi, not Nyanbe.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2148665/?ref_=tt_cl_t6

Ah, Nyambi Nyambi. The guy from Mike & Molly.

[Tarris Vaal]

Hmmmmm unsure (about my theory holding up).

Well I guess we'll have to wait to find out! I'm sure he'll do a good job with Verminator regardless I take it there isn't any concept art for him yet?



Overthinking hat on again -

Something that still doesn't add up for me is the timeline.

If we are jumping to the right conclusion that Mystery Mutant is indeed April/Dons kid... then that poses several problems in regards to timelines. Namely - if its accurate to say that the arc occurs 50yrs in the future, then April would have been really quite old to be having a child that is seemingly only in its teenage years.

If we presume that Mystery mutant is roughly 15 - 18 years old, then it would have been 35-32 years after the crossover story that April gave birth. Assuming April is still 16 during the crossover arc (which is itself being kinda generous - she ought to be 17-18 by now), then she would have been between 48-51 years old at least at the time.

Admittedly there is the mutant factor involved, but April is mostly human, so assuming she's fertile at all, then she'd be well past most womens ability to bear children reliably/safely. Not to mention that it would mean that she and Don were a couple for DECADES before having a child.

The numbers just dont add up to allow Mystery mutant to be their child, Unless, it is genetic engineering (again - a bit late in the day to be considering starting having children?)

The only exception to this I can think of (aside from the writing team just shrugging and doing it anyway), would be that Mystery mutant is their child, but she was born much earlier than the apocalypse arc storyline - only to be then placed into stasis. After all, the Kraang stasis pod from Buried secrets is still around and known to both Don and April - and using it would even set up opportunity for a potential Superman reference.

[NikitaZhukov]

Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

that poses several problems in regards to timelines.

I don't think creators of the show care.

[BubblyShell22]

I would think maybe it's a test tube baby then if that's the case or that they did put the child in stasis to protect it because of the dangers out there.