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Old 09-02-2019, 02:11 PM   #121
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Not really, no.
Did you see my quote from the Ask Editor thread? Am I totally misinterpreting what was said or is it what I originally said?

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No I agree with Andrew here, it really doesn't work like that either. The official story behind the creation is that Kevin drew a turtle carrying ninja weapons, which lead to brainstorming between him and Peter. That story would imply they were an original idea at first and any similarities were added later on.
Right! Someone call Wiki, they got it wrong!

No really, if it's wrong, it needs correcting as whenever sources talk about the history of TMNT they're going to use Wiki. The Wikipedia site doesn't validate my edits so I can't do it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:11 PM   #122
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I am sorry if i did miss the boat or stepping on some feets but i have to Ask is Sofia cambell the same AS ross campbell??perhaps i rember wrong but a long time ago i mean that it was printed a pic of ross campbell with glasset, almost no hair and skinny and it did say something like he did like to go to cafe and comic stores etc.was it a cover identety like some writers do and publish a book under a diffrent name?or is it a other story to it??in the end it dosent matter because he/she is one of my top tmnt artist with Peter,kevin,farly.just did Wonder because all this time i did think it was a man and now its a she it seems.
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:14 PM   #123
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I am sorry if i did miss the boat or stepping on some feets but i have to Ask is Sofia cambell the same AS ross campbell??perhaps i rember wrong but a long time ago i mean that it was printed a pic of ross campbell with glasset, almost no hair and skinny and it did say something like he did like to go to cafe and comic stores etc.was it a cover identety like some writers do and publish a book under a diffrent name?or is it a other story to it??in the end it dosent matter because he/she is one of my top tmnt artist with Peter,kevin,farly.just did Wonder because all this time i did think it was a man and now its a she it seems.
Yes. Sophie Campbell is the same person as Ross Campbell.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:10 AM   #124
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Ok thank you fore clearing that up😊
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:12 AM   #125
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Did you see my quote from the Ask Editor thread? Am I totally misinterpreting what was said or is it what I originally said?

Right! Someone call Wiki, they got it wrong!

No really, if it's wrong, it needs correcting as whenever sources talk about the history of TMNT they're going to use Wiki. The Wikipedia site doesn't validate my edits so I can't do it.
It's pretty simple.

We asked Kevin: "Hey Kevin, is or was TMNT a parody?"

Kevin: "No."

We asked Peter: "Hey Peter, is or was TMNT a parody?"

Peter: "No."

Case closed. But people still like to often pretend the opposite, and/or call them liars.
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:40 AM   #126
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I guess similarities would be entirely coincidental? When did the parody narrative spring to life?
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:22 AM   #127
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I guess similarities would be entirely coincidental? When did the parody narrative spring to life?
Mostly fans looking for ways to belittle or poke holes in the Mirage TMNT or otherwise illustrate, "See? The whole thing is silly, just like Fred Wolf! It was made to be a parody! Lighten up!" Etc..
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:20 AM   #128
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Why are we still talking about the Quartering?
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:47 AM   #129
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Mostly fans looking for ways to belittle or poke holes in the Mirage TMNT or otherwise illustrate, "See? The whole thing is silly, just like Fred Wolf! It was made to be a parody! Lighten up!" Etc..
So Splinter being named for Stick, and naming the Foot clan instead of the hand. The whole daredevil connection, you're washing that away?
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:50 AM   #130
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So Splinter being named for Stick, and naming the Foot clan instead of the hand. The whole daredevil connection, you're washing that away?
Some homage elements do not a parody make. And what's to wash away? We asked Kevin and Peter and they said no. We know better than them what they had in mind?
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:35 AM   #131
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Some homage elements do not a parody make. And what's to wash away? We asked Kevin and Peter and they said no. We know better than them what they had in mind?
It's a soft parody, if they cop to it or not. There's evidence all through the Mirage books. It evolved into it's own thing, but that wasn't where it started.

It's in the name, as we all know.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:39 AM   #132
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:59 AM   #133
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So as someone has never read the IDW, largely because it came out when i lost interest in the franchise and when I got back into it, it had a large number of issues that I couldn't catch up with.

I heard about Jennika a few days after the initial issue came out. I started thinking it was a bad idea, but after reading her backstory and seeing her design, I liked the idea. She doesn't look female. She looks like a Mutant Turtle. The other four don't look overly male, so why does Jennika need to look overly female?

Also, due to her backstory, the idea of her wearing clothes is perfectly fine.

The idea that people are calling this 'SJW pandering' is pathetic really. They wanted to make a female Turtle, and they did. Not because of an agenda, but because they wanted to
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:35 AM   #134
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It's in the name, as we all know.
Yeah I mean any person who hears the name understands how wacky it is. I'm guessing Laird and Eastman knew how crazy the concept was but just went for it albeit with a wink in their eyes.

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Case closed. But people still like to often pretend the opposite, and/or call them liars.
What about the Ask Editor quote?

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The idea that people are calling this 'SJW pandering' is pathetic really. They wanted to make a female Turtle, and they did. Not because of an agenda, but because they wanted to
However is it something as Bobby Curnow related about his colleague Tom that had to be done? If so why? The problem people have is that because everything is being gender flipped or female orientated just for left wing agendas people are complaining every time it happens as well as rightly calling it out. I personally feel for example there is something wrong in the industry when DC allow a crowdfunding scammer to work for them. This is ignoring the fact said 'creator' may or may not have contributed to the suicide of a former boyfriend/colleague.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:40 AM   #135
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What about the Ask Editor quote?
What are you talking about? Bobby Curnow doesn't get to tell us if Mirage TMNT was created to be a parody or not.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:21 PM   #136
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I don't recall ever saying TMNT was a parody. Certainly doesn't sound like something i'd say or reflect my thoughts. Or that we had to mutate Jennika. That's just something Tom wanted to do and went ahead and did with the rest of our blessing.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:30 PM   #137
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What are you talking about? Bobby Curnow doesn't get to tell us if Mirage TMNT was created to be a parody or not.
Was talking about the quote in relation to what Bobby Curnow said on the Ask Editor part of the forum. I quoted what was said.

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Or that we had to mutate Jennika. That's just something Tom wanted to do and went ahead and did with the rest of our blessing.
But why was it something your colleague Tom felt was so important for a long time?
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:34 PM   #138
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Wait, two months later and this thread is still going...? Yikes!

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Old 09-20-2019, 05:46 PM   #139
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Was talking about the quote in relation to what Bobby Curnow said on the Ask Editor part of the forum. I quoted what was said.

But why was it something your colleague Tom felt was so important for a long time?
I don't want to speak for Tom. But my personal answer would be that there's no reason not to and it's important for different people to be able see themselves represented in their favorite media. If you can do that in a natural way that works in the story, then everyone wins in my personal opinion.

Now, maybe some would say it doesn't work for the story and that it feels forced... that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I know we took steps to make Jennika a fully-realized character before the mutation so in my mind it works as a surprise twist for her that opens up more story potential.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:53 PM   #140
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You honestly shouldn't waste braincells even thinking about TheQuartering's opinion. He just pretends to be outraged by everything for views.
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