Star Wars: Episode IX

[sdp]

He had trouble with an unfinished Death Star IV taking place as the finale after the opening of ice planet nothoth.

I know people were not happy with Trevorrow but this clearly speaks more with the problems in Lucasfilm with Rogue One, Han Solo and now this, it wouldn't surprise me if it gets DC levels of hilarity in a few years.

[Vegita-San]

another one?

anyone still wanna claim kathleen kennedy knows what the frig she is doing?

[Andrew NDB]

This line is particularly concerning:

"but we have all come to the conclusion that our visions for the project differ."

"Our" visions? Whose visions? Trevorrow's and... whose? Kennedy's? Disney's? The former isn't a creator or writer and the latter is a company that wants to make money. Some oversight on their hired gun directors doing their Star Wars movies makes sense, but why would Kennedy or Disney ever have some kind of "vision" for a particular movie?

[snake]

Why would a company have a vision for one of their most highly anticipated and profitable films? I have no idea.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Everyone loves writing Star Wars fan-fiction, the more inventive the better. I wouldn't be surprised if Trevorrow wanted to do something that was "out there", i.e., putting characters in situations unfamiliar to the audience, and Disney just wanted it closer to the OT.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by snake

Why would a company have a vision for one of their most highly anticipated and profitable films? I have no idea.

A general vision ("we want to make an amusement park by X date, X number of movies a year, a cartoon in place by X date, a new toy line every X") but surely not a creative one. If Disney has, like, some creative think tank oversight committee for Star Wars, they haven't ever told us about it. There's just Kathleen Kennedy, a glorified producer.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

A general vision ("we want to make an amusement park by X date, X number of movies a year, a cartoon in place by X date, a new toy line every X") but surely not a creative one. If Disney has, like, some creative think tank oversight committee for Star Wars, they haven't ever told us about it. There's just Kathleen Kennedy, a glorified producer.

supposedly there is the all mighty 'story group' that's supposed to be making super continuity tight stories now. but that's about it..

It basically seems like kennedy is calling all the shots as far as we know and so far those shots are not well guided.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

A general vision ("we want to make an amusement park by X date, X number of movies a year, a cartoon in place by X date, a new toy line every X") but surely not a creative one. If Disney has, like, some creative think tank oversight committee for Star Wars, they haven't ever told us about it. There's just Kathleen Kennedy, a glorified producer.

It seems pretty obvious the producers involved weren't happy with the script(s) Trevorrow has turned in and they don't want to film his vision of IX.

[TigerClaw]

Given the drama that's been going on over the Han Solo movie, and now Episode 9, its really no surprise, obviously Lucasfilm saw something that didn't match there vision of what the movie is supposed to be, Episode 9 was originally gonna feature Leia, and then the script had to be rewritten to not include the character, seems like whatever Colin Trevorrow wrote, it was going outside of Lucasfilm's comfort zone with Star Wars, perhaps it was going outside of the formula.

Now that he's out, who could possibly direct Episode 9?

[ProactiveMan]

He probably wanted to make a movie and not a two hour cross merchandising promo. When do we get a standalone film about that bug-eyed woodchuck looking thing from Ep 8?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by snake

Star Wars is SAVED

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Yyyyeeeesssss.

This makes me so happy. Rian Johnson is the current favorite to replace him.

[NinjaPug]

Rian Johnson makes the most sense. Things seemingly went smoothly on VIII outside of some rewrites they did prior to starting principal photography. Rumor has it the film is already completed (although I'm sure they'll be tweaking visual effects until December) so he could step into IX pre-production now and meet their Jan 2018 start date.

I just hope they don't go back to JJ. His name is being floated too.

[Vegita-San]

i've been reading around opinions on this mess...

first R1, then Solo, now Ep 9? they all seem to be the same problem done at different areas of production.

It's pretty goofy the lengths people will go to to defend their favorite franchise when the evidence is right there in front of them.

I don't think there's been this many director replacements and so late in the game on some, if any movie franchise ever, has there? of course, star wars might be unique in that regard, but something to me seems like star wars and it's future is in trouble.

[Vegita-San]

so basically kennedy rules it with an iron fist and disagree with her in any way and boom you're gone.

sounds like a real creative workplace.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/star-...planation.html

[Andrew NDB]

My pick for director of IX: George Lucas. Writing the story, not the script. With no yes men.

Dead serious.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I don't think Lucas would ever do it even if they begged. But as you said, he's a good storyteller but never give him a script to write. Imagine if every Star Wars movie was like ESB.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I don't think Lucas would ever do it even if they begged.

He wouldn't say yes and they wouldn't ask.

But they should and he should.

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/star-war...evorrow-split/

“There’s one gatekeeper when it comes to Star Wars and it’s Kathleen Kennedy. If you rub Kathleen Kennedy the wrong way – in any way – you’re out. You’re done. A lot of these young, new directors want to come in and say, ‘I want to do this. I want to do that.’ A lot of these guys – Lord and Miller, Colin Trevorrow – got very rich, very fast and believed a lot of their own hype. And they don’t want to play by the rules. They want to do s*** differently. And Kathleen Kennedy isn’t going to f*** around with that.”

“During the making of ‘Jurassic World,’ he focused a great deal of his creative energies on asserting his opinion. But because he had been personally hired by Spielberg, nobody could say, ‘You’re fired.’ Once that film went through the roof and he chose to do ‘Henry,’ [Trevorrow] was unbearable. He had an egotistical point of view – and he was always asserting that… He’s a difficult guy. He’s really, really, really confident. Let’s call it that.”

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

http://www.darkhorizons.com/star-war...evorrow-split/

“There’s one gatekeeper when it comes to Star Wars and it’s Kathleen Kennedy. If you rub Kathleen Kennedy the wrong way – in any way – you’re out. You’re done. A lot of these young, new directors want to come in and say, ‘I want to do this. I want to do that.’ A lot of these guys – Lord and Miller, Colin Trevorrow – got very rich, very fast and believed a lot of their own hype. And they don’t want to play by the rules. They want to do s*** differently. And Kathleen Kennedy isn’t going to f*** around with that.”

“During the making of ‘Jurassic World,’ he focused a great deal of his creative energies on asserting his opinion. But because he had been personally hired by Spielberg, nobody could say, ‘You’re fired.’ Once that film went through the roof and he chose to do ‘Henry,’ [Trevorrow] was unbearable. He had an egotistical point of view – and he was always asserting that… He’s a difficult guy. He’s really, really, really confident. Let’s call it that.”

So basically these new young directors wanted to do something different to Star Wars, by making something that didn't felt like Star Wars.

[Mayhem]

Not strictly true, they wanted to do something to Star Wars that Kennedy didn't think should happen.