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Old 03-23-2017, 12:54 PM   #61
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You've obviously never actually read it.
He's the penultimate Fred Wolf apologist, to an extent that it comes off like trolling (though I don't think it is).
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i just see the Turtles hanging out with a TV reporter as a conflict of interest.
thank goodness the IDW comics returned her as first being an assistant for Baxter Stockman.


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From what I understand it was pretty terrible. This version was basically an overreaction to TMNT being labelled as a kids property so the writers made Leo lose an eye, Raph face burnt off etc. Very contrived in concept.
i found the image run to be pretty frikken awesome myself.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:53 PM   #63
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i just see the Turtles hanging out with a TV reporter as a conflict of interest.
thank goodness the IDW comics returned her as first being an assistant for Baxter Stockman.




i found the image run to be pretty frikken awesome myself.
Real TMNT fans like Image TMNT.
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:02 PM   #64
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I haven't even touched an Image comic and even I love the idea of it. If only I knew where to purchase them.
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I haven't even touched an Image comic and even I love the idea of it. If only I knew where to purchase them.
eBay or mycomicshop or even on here. They crop up fairly regularly.
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Wait, from here?
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:32 PM   #68
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i know opinions and tastes are purely subjective,
but Image being called terrible? that's pretty harsh!


at least it wasn't a bash on the classic Mirage comics.
then i'd say we had ourselves a clear case of insanity!!
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Thanks, I've been wanting to read this.

But yeah, PD turtles are the worst, no contest.
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Thanks, I've been wanting to read this.

But yeah, PD turtles are the worst, no contest.
PD might be neck and neck with these guys

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Old 03-23-2017, 07:03 PM   #71
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He's the penultimate Fred Wolf apologist, to an extent that it comes off like trolling (though I don't think it is).
Oh I know his schtick. He thinks David Wise created all the turtles' archetypical personalities and they were just interchangeable blank slates for the first 4 years of Mirage.

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i found the image run to be pretty frikken awesome myself.
It's very much in line with most of Mirage. I used to think it was retarded too, based off of its reputation. But then I read it.

It's very 90's and some of the characters from other Image books are awful, but once you get passed the first arc it's amazing.
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It's very much in line with most of Mirage. I used to think it was retarded too, based off of its reputation. But then I read it.

It's very 90's and some of the characters from other Image books are awful, but once you get passed the first arc it's amazing.
yeah, the image run felt very much a nice continuation of the Mirage run.

sure there were some real differences in writing tone and definitely the art style.
but it wasn't so far removed to seem like a completely different universe, unlike a lot of the mainstream comics after they have a change in creative teams.
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:19 AM   #73
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You know, a new iteration of TMNT where Casey Jones is a girl may not be the worst thing ever.
It wouldn't. But, if they made a big deal out of it and made her really arrogant, but then had her suck at everything it would undermine whatever feminist progress they were trying to make, and just be really annoying. It would be Nick!Casey only sexist while trying too hard not to be sexist.

It would be perfect for my worst imagined version.


My issues with the Image series are all the "X-Treme 90s"isms that kept me away from most Superhero comics at the time, especially all the Image characters they cross over with, and the Turtles not caring about each other getting horribly disfigured. I also think Raph looks kinda stupid with Casey's mask on (and Casey's new mask looks kinda stupid too). So, I don't think it's fair to say that if you like Mirage TMNT (I LOVE Mirage TMNT) you have to like Image TMNT.

To be fair, there's some neat stuff in there too, and I can see why some might like it. And, I think what Andrew did collaborating with the creative team to give it a conclusion and tie it back into Mirage continuity is kinda neat. But, it's just not my cup of tea.

It is interesting that TMNT at the time was the two extremes, Image and Next Mutation. The darkest and the lightest.
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one thing i wasn't happy with in the Image run was Leo loosing a hand.
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I wasn't happy with the characterization at first with Image. It was super macho and occasionally quite sexist and not at all like the Turtles usually are.

It got better as it went, except all the crossovers.
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I'll define mine as a list of bullet points taken from past incarnations.
•The fighting would be the slapstick sort from most of the Fred Wolf show.
•Venus would be in it.
•Venus would act like she did in The Next Mutation.
•Except she'd be the leader.
•Every other turtle would have the personality of Mikey at his very worst.
•The Turtles would actually be aliens, and none would be siblings.
•It would be a musical, with songs on-par with the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour other than "Pizza Power."
•It would be live-action and use the costumes from that LA public transportation PSA.
•Shredder would be as incompetent as his Fred Wolf incarnation, as one-dimensional as his 4Kids incarnation, and have the costume and anti-music conspiracy of his Coming Out of Their Shells incarnation.
•Splinter would be as much of a jerk and an idiot as he is in the worst moments of the Nick show, all the time.
•Every episode would contain at least ten uses of "Cowabunga" and "What the Shell".
•April would have no talents, no sense of danger, no fashion sense and no breasts.
•Burn Thompson would be her boss, played by Whoopi Goldberg dressed to look like a white man.
•Irma would actually be a Kraang, but not a smart and sentient and funny one and not voiced by Godfrey. He'd be one of the moronic Kraang, except even more moronic. His Irma costume would have the portion he rides in always visible, and everyone would just pretend not to notice because they wouldn't want to hurt his feelings.
•The Pulveriser would be in it, just as fat and worthless as he was in the Nick show, except this time the show's narrative would treat every bit of constructive criticism he gets as mendacious fat-shaming. Then, in a moment of self-contradiction, he would foul up so badly about a thousand people die. He would not become Mutagen Man.
•The Vomit Monster would be in it, as a regular villain.
•All of the Turtles would be bisexual and the male turtles would divide their time between making out with each other and fighting over who gets Venus.
•Also both Don and Miley would lust after April and hatch schemes to get with her.
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:05 AM   #77
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Oh I know his schtick. He thinks David Wise created all the turtles' archetypical personalities and they were just interchangeable blank slates for the first 4 years of Mirage.
Are you guys talking about me? First of all you're having a go at me for liking a show you don't consider worthy (because you and the other guy are idiots), second of all the FW cartoon was made when the Mirage comic was still relatively new so yeah there's going to be some cross over of ideas, third of all I don't need to read the Image era if I don't want to. The Image era is seen as the nadir of the franchise along with The Next Mutation. Hey feel free to like it but it wasn't good and the comic, what it did was an overreaction to what was going on at the time. Hope that clears things up.

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Real TMNT fans like Image TMNT.
Real TMNT fans like The Next Mutation. Does that make you feel better?

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He's the penultimate Fred Wolf apologist, to an extent that it comes off like trolling (though I don't think it is).
I'm not the penultimate anything yet the person who's having a go at me could be considered the troll himself for criticising someone on this board eh?
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By who? By you?
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:14 AM   #79
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By who? By you?
Not by me. But I know fandom never liked it much due to the crazy stuff that happened in it. Too right as well.
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Pretty sure the "nadir", is the Next Mutation. It's far easier to find defenders of the Image series.
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