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Old 03-30-2017, 11:12 AM   #81
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Pretty sure the "nadir", is the Next Mutation. It's far easier to find defenders of the Image series.
But it is around the same time. Volume 4 and the 2003 cartoon were seen as rejuvenating the franchise.
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Old 03-30-2017, 02:59 PM   #82
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it's all opinion based.
not everyone has to like the same things.

sure there are majorities of certain preferences.
but personal tastes are that of the individual.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:21 PM   #83
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:30 PM   #84
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To kill my buzz after new comic book day.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:42 PM   #85
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I think it's time this thread was locked.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:46 PM   #86
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I think it's time this thread was locked.
For once I kind of agree on this statement.
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Ya know something Cubed? I think the PD Turtles' lips bother me almost as much as their nostrils do you
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:15 PM   #88
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Ya know something Cubed? I think the PD Turtles' lips bother me almost as much as their nostrils do you
It's basically the whole human looking faces in general. The nose/nostrils, the human lips, the eyes....they look like ogres, Shrek clones, 4 Hulks, or humans in green skin rather than Turtles.
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It's basically the whole human looking faces in general. The nose/nostrils, the human lips, the eyes....they look like ogres, Shrek clones, 4 Hulks, or humans in green skin rather than Turtles.
Or these guys:

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It's basically the whole human looking faces in general. The nose/nostrils, the human lips, the eyes....they look like ogres, Shrek clones, 4 Hulks, or humans in green skin rather than Turtles.
they should have just given them ears too!
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:54 PM   #91
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It's basically the whole human looking faces in general. The nose/nostrils, the human lips, the eyes....they look like ogres, Shrek clones, 4 Hulks, or humans in green skin rather than Turtles.
Yeah, look don't judge me, but I still think Mikey looks adorable (even though he is creepy in the first one).
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:55 PM   #92
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they should have just given them ears too!
Honestly, they should have just put green face paint on four dudes and saved their SFX money and then maybe they could've afforded to pay actual writers to create a coherent plot with likable characters
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One where they transform inbetween human and turtle power ranger style destroying the conflict of being outsiders to human society. Ba-BAM!
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From what I understand it was pretty terrible. This version was basically an overreaction to TMNT being labelled as a kids property so the writers made Leo lose an eye, Raph face burnt off etc. Very contrived in concept.
I understand it's your personal opinion, but do you mean to say that Image did absolutely nothing for you? Have you even read much of it? Many TMNT fans, myself included, loved it for breathing life back into the comics, bringing them out of the slump they'd been in since Vol. 2. It also brought back the "gritty" nature it had, which was the original appeal to the brand. What's there not to like about it?
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:34 AM   #95
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What's there not to like about it?
The "X-Treme 90s" writing style, the shilling for Savage Dragon and other Image characters, and the Turtles getting horribly disfigured (and not caring that much about each other).

There are things to like about it too, but these are legit reasons why it's not for everyone or even every Mirage TMNT fan.
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and the Turtles getting horribly disfigured (and not caring that much about each other).
So kind of like V4, then?
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:11 PM   #97
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So kind of like V4, then?
Raph getting the Gamera treatment, Don shrinking, Mikey getting PTSD and anger issues, Leo getting... nothing, I guess.

Yep!

Horribly disfigured, and not really caring about each other.
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Yeah, V4's not perfect either (I really don't like Psycho-Mikey wanting to kill his baby-mama). The lack of concern for each other bothers me in Vol. 4 too.

But, I do want to go on record and say that I like Shrunken Don in a Mech Suit much better than full-on cyborg Don. I actually really liked that concept. And, I also like "Gameraph" better than him wearing Casey's mask (he should have just went with the eye-patch in Image). But, I do wish they gave that a better resolution.

There are reasons why I think of the Vol.1 era as "the complete series" (though even vol. 1 has it's flaws), and vol. 2, 3, and 4 as "sequels".
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Old 04-05-2017, 04:04 PM   #99
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I kinda like Mark Martin's issues but I think the worst TMNT would be if he would have been allowed to draw more issues during his Mirage-run. I think it was a wise decision to limit his latter appearances to doing self-parody through his Green-Grey Sponge-Suit Sushi Turtles.
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Hedden and McWeeney deserve a shout out in this thread.

This is said shout out.
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