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05-06-2017, 06:14 PM | #22 |
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I think it was done very effectively since it was symbolic of Shredder's transformation into a monster in a literal sense and effectively showed how deranged and obsessed Shredder was with pursuing his revenge; even going as far as to turn into something he loathed the most. It was handled very well and was effectively illustrated from his debut up until his final battle with the turtles.
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05-06-2017, 07:11 PM | #23 |
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Personally, I think Super Shredder was a perfect fit for this series. I think he was a better fit than regular Shredder was.
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05-06-2017, 08:29 PM | #24 |
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Seeing as how every human in the show either becomes a mutant or has some mutagen origins, of course. There was never a doubt in my mind we'd eventually see SuperShredder.
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05-06-2017, 11:24 PM | #25 |
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Seemed pretty unnecessary to me.
But I guess they did it to make people care more for him before his untimely demise (and like that lasted long). And also for the most important reason these days: to sell more toys. |
05-08-2017, 03:41 PM | #26 | |
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After that nobody in the audience could genuinely feel sorry for him, because there wasn't enough human in him to be pitied. At least like people say, it was covered in five episodes so if you didn't like Super Shredder, it wasn't dragged out over infinite episodes like 'the' love triangle.
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05-08-2017, 08:08 PM | #27 |
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Not particularly. He had to evolve somehow.
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05-13-2017, 10:09 AM | #28 |
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I could have done without it, but I don't mind that they did it.
I guess the "becoming a monster" thing makes it work. |
05-13-2017, 10:37 AM | #29 | |
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Don't tell me that Shredder's conflict of being a monster (brought up by Leo) in Owari isn't a memorable sequence, it certainly was and showed some remorse and humanity on Shredder's part.
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05-13-2017, 10:44 AM | #30 |
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I wasn't a fan of it, and I thought the design was a bit on the sillier side of Nick TMNT monster designs. but, at least it was handled well enough story-wise.
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05-13-2017, 03:08 PM | #31 |
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No, I think it was necessary to show how far Shredder stooped to get his revenge by becoming the thing he despised the most. He wanted to eliminate his enemies and he felt the best way to do it was to become more powerful as a mutant and possible remain on equal footing with the Turtles in a way.
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05-25-2017, 02:46 PM | #32 |
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i agree with those saying that Mutating Shredder was unnecessary.
if the Turtles had a hard time beating the Shredder as a human, having them fight a monstrous Super Shredder was just overkill. the only way the Turtles should have been able to defeat Super Shredder would have been by feeding him those Hostess Turtle Pies from the 90's.
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05-25-2017, 02:54 PM | #33 |
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The way the Turtles were shown beating Super Shredder worked well. They used his huge bulking size against him and it was obvious he couldn't use any of his ninjitsu moves in his mutated form, so it's believeable they were able to defeat him while they had trouble when he was human.
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05-25-2017, 11:44 PM | #36 |
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What morality, the dude was willing to sacrifice the Earth just to fulfill his petty revenge, the dude was pretty much irredeemable by the middle of season 3.
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05-25-2017, 11:53 PM | #37 | |
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To me, Super Shredder made sense because by the end of season 4, the turtles had significantly improved in their ninja skills and had already fought so many dangerous enemies like Lord Dregg, the Triceratons, Kraang Subprime, giant 80s Krang, the Mega Shredder, Armaggon that Regular Shredder would've seemed somewhat underwhelming compared to them. |
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05-25-2017, 11:57 PM | #38 |
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What I mean is that in season 3 as a human, he still had the capability to turn his ways but by the time he mutated, he was a mindless monster incapable of emotional reaction.
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05-26-2017, 01:12 PM | #39 | |
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Splinter also allows Shredder to live so that Karma can run its course or he still has some chance of seeking to redeem some honor, which would likely be performing sepuku. |
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05-26-2017, 02:48 PM | #40 | |
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I think the final nail in the coffin was in Requiem when Shredder's evil had taken him so far that he ordered Stockman to inject him with more mutagen that would ultimately destroy all emotional reaction within. That way, he had given up his soul for good and essentially was nothing but a mindless killing machine. In his final confrontation with Leonardo, the Shredder seemed to hesitate when Leonardo asked him whether his destiny was to be a monster but then immediately started attacking again impulsively. Its as if his soul deep down was trapped and suffering in hell, unable to affect his body and regretful, but it was far too late to change as his body had become what his spirit was throughout the series, the embodiment of evil. |
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