04-11-2018, 07:23 PM | #1 |
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Tatsu's Ineffectiveness
Upon re-watching the original TMNT trilogy for the zillionth time, I noticed something that hadn't really caught my attention in previous viewings. Tatsu is so darned ineffective as a second-in-command. In the first film, he fights his own side in training and out of anger more than he fights his enemies. He crashes April's apartment, and if you look closely he literally just stands there nodding while the Foot do all the work, fighting the Turtles. At the end, he BARELY fights Casey. In the second film, he's even worse. I don't recall a single scene where he fights, save for the end scene in which he just gets smashed by the Turtles's shells.
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04-11-2018, 07:29 PM | #2 |
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Yeah, I noticed this in recent years myself. He just stands there & intimidates teenagers, basically. He can kick their asses, but not any of the turtles or Casey.
He was effective at looking cool as hell, at least. Definitely left a lasting impression the fans, who longed for his return over two decades! That said, despite being considerably less useful, I still prefer him to Hun.
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04-11-2018, 08:08 PM | #3 |
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Dude, that was his whole shtick in Hyperstone Heist!
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04-11-2018, 08:26 PM | #4 |
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Well to be honest.... had Casey not found a golf club, Tatsu would have whupped his ass. There was nothing Casey could really go against him.
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Donnie, I never really thought about it,but you are right. It was always right there in front of us,but it took x years into adulthood to see it. Another thing that bugged me as an adult was Shredder who fell into the garbage truck was in effect taken to the Foot's fallback spot, the Junk Yard yet why would a garbage truck go to a junk yard instead of a landfill/the dump? I assumed it was all the same thing as a kid thanks to Secret of the Ooze.
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Winters - Haha, totally forgot about that. A very true to character adaptation.
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04-12-2018, 01:05 PM | #7 |
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I only watched all the original trilogy for the first time recently, but I agree with what Donnie said about Tatsu. Tatsu at least looked badass in the first film, though.
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04-12-2018, 01:35 PM | #8 |
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I agree with Casey he could really use something to clear up his throat.
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04-12-2018, 01:44 PM | #9 |
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What does the regular actor sound like, anyway? Does he have like a Mike Tyson voice? I never understood why they bothered dubbing another actor over him for so few, tiny lines.
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04-13-2018, 04:53 PM | #10 |
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I was curious if the reason was he could not speak English. So I looked up interview clips and could only find clips like the above of Obata speaking Japanese. Also, in Demolition Man he only grunts if I am not mistaken.
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04-13-2018, 07:17 PM | #12 |
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But I mean, whether he speaks English or not, if it's just one or two lines in like 2 places... you can still memorize them. If I'm in a movie in France, I'm pretty sure I can memorize some French lines to say.
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04-13-2018, 09:29 PM | #13 |
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I watched a interview with him from 2008 in English and I didn't even realize he was speaking English at first.
*EDIT* found the interview https://youtu.be/DzBxEr9kvqM skip to 6:19
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04-13-2018, 09:32 PM | #14 | |
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04-15-2018, 10:28 AM | #15 |
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It’s not uncommon. I’m sure he did the dialogue on set, maybe after reviewing everything his voice just didn’t have the feel they needed. Or, he was struggling too much with the dialogue and they wanted something clearer. Maybe they just really liked his look and always planned on dubbing it. But yeah, it’s so common I’m sure there’s a logical explanation for it.
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