Tmnt #21 Discussion

[Vi11AiN6]

This looks awesome!!! I'm looking forward to it. I really enjoyed Eastmans Annual, it was a real treat because I thought he was done with TMNT forever once be bought Heavy Metal. I'm glad to see him still doing a comic once in awhile.

The ultimate (which I doubt would happen) is a Laird/Eastman one-shot story. Who knows maybe someday? ....... Probably not.

Till then I will look forward to this issue. IDW rules and this is the best TMNT series EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER................

screw Cowabunga, I say Booyakasha!!!!!!!

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Tazi

Well, if it's really after the 2nd Krang story arc, it might be the introduction of Bishop in relation of the alien activities directed toward earth (= Krang tries to terraform the planet). I think it was even confirmed before that IDW has plans for him... or am I wrong?

I also think that the Utroms will wake up in a future story arc. And Karai will probably betray Shredder.

Also, this new mistery guy, and the beating they got from him, and his remarks of the turtles' untrainedness might indicate that they will go somewhere to train? Like travelling the world, like in Archie? Or maybe they introduce the Anchient One?
Or a training montage, while 'Eye of the Tiger' is playing in the background.

Tazi,Bishop is confirmed to be coming soon and its a guarantee he will work his way into the Krang plotline, but I don't know where clues would be planted for him especially if we are focusing on Shredder take control of under world operations. I assume Bobby's statement means starting in #21 clues will suggest something. Maybe we will have an idea the middle of next week.

I do believe this mutant-like masked ninja is with the Savante ninjas. The use of french language is a clue to that. That is a clue and Bobby said something of clues just now being dropped for something circa #34/#35.

As for the montage, I can see a trainning sequence happing in a page length and it could cover several hours with Eye of the Tiger, or the silly and simply named Trainning Montage playing on our iPods or better eye Shredder's Suite. Anyway, I do feel something like The Guardians and Ninja Tribunal is out there evaluating the turtles to train for something. Is it the savante group?


Btw villian6,Cowabunga says it all!

[snake]

Originally Posted by Tazi

You're probably right, but the cape with the hood, the same colored eyes, and the non-sharp teeth are kinda confusing.
Tho it would be kinda epic, if it were hinted by the creators this way, that this new mistery guy is monitoring the events since the beginning.

I have a feeling it's hun.

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Tazi,Bishop is confirmed to be coming soon and its a guarantee he will work his way into the Krang plotline, but I don't know where clues would be planted for him especially if we are focusing on Shredder take control of under world operations. I assume Bobby's statement means starting in #21 clues will suggest something. Maybe we will have an idea the middle of next week.

I think he ment this in generally speaking, not only for #21, but any issue that they're recently doing work on.
About Bishop, in the Baxter micro, I think he might appear:

If he's too competent, he finishes the project, and the world is wrecked (and, again, he becomes disposable.) How can Baxter get out of this situation, knowing what he knows? That's where we start.

So he might file in Bishop somehow? Dunno. Maybe he just intentionally builds some weekpoint into the Technodrome, that will resurface much later after Cityfall. That would be a foreshadowing.

[miru]

I think it's Xever or Bradford.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Tazi

I think he ment this in generally speaking, not only for #21, but any issue that they're recently doing work on.
About Bishop, in the Baxter micro, I think he might appear:

So he might file in Bishop somehow? Dunno. Maybe he just intentionally builds some weekpoint into the Technodrome, that will resurface much later after Cityfall. That would be a foreshadowing.

Baxter is always destined to be horribly transformed, so he may very well maintain progress for Krang, but something pisses him off enough to take it all out on Baxter's "incompetence", thus leading to whatever he'll become in this version.

Hopefully not a cybernetic fly. The Baxterbot in Mirage had a very intimidating look to it, though.

[corvus]

It's definitely Venus.

[liugeaux]

Wow, I've never been too much of a fan of Eastman's turtles, but this looks 300% better than last years annual. I'm suddenly pretty stoked to read this next week.

[dawwe]

I really like seeing Kevin's artwork with Ronda Pattison's colors and this is no exception. It looks much better than the annual even if the annual still looked good.

I have no idea who the masked person is but I seriously doubt it's Splinter. And as other people have pointed out, he might be connected to the savante ninja because of him using a french word. But I am very much looking forward to reading this.

Also, about Baxter mutating. A part of me doesn't want him to mutate and a part of me totally want him to turn into a giant fly.

[Tazi]

I wouldn't mind him turning into a robot or a fly later, but for me it would be better if they would keep him normal human for a while. I mean like 20-25 issues at least.
The fly transformation could be interesting, since IDW has a lot more serious tone then the '87 cartoon had, it would be interesting if they would turn him into a horrendeous creature like originally in the movie 'The Fly'. (where the inspiration came from)

Spoiler:

[Slade]

No discussion thread yet??

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

No discussion thread yet??

I guess not, but I didn't see the ending coming at all. I was actually pretty upset about it until I saw the ending.....

Spoiler:

Splinter was the enemy and kicked all their asses!!!!!

[Blossombrooks]

It was a great issue, one of my fav's of the run so far. I had an inkling about the ending but it was still a good reveal, made me smile

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I really, really hate saying this, because every issue of this comic has really been awesome up until now, but this issue was a huge disappointment for me. the ending was boring and predicable, and as I feared, one we saw the turtles go through elsewhere recently.

[Slade]

Yeah seems most people had been right about who it was.

[DrSpengler]

Here's my review of TMNT #21 at TMNT Entity.

Kevin Eastman's art is always a treat and seeing Pattison's colors applied was a wonderful bonus.

But the story... hrm. The big reveal was plainly telegraphed from the start and the issue-long fight was repetitive to the brink of tedium. I get the message of the issue and it certainly feels like we're at the boiling point of the "City Fall" arc, but the execution was sort of... boring.

Sorry to be a Negative Nancy on this one. Enjoyed the art and the colors and the jist of it all, just not so much the story.

[Powder]

As usual I'm with Spengs on this.

Kevins art is a treat for the eyes but it seems the content of his issues thus far have been lackluster.

[Coro]

Issue 21's story just leaped to my favorite issue in this series by far! Art was amazing and the story had me guessing till the end.

WELL DONE to all those involved!

Best yet and more awesome is sure to come!

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

I really, really hate saying this, because every issue of this comic has really been awesome up until now, but this issue was a huge disappointment for me. the ending was boring and predicable, and as I feared, one we saw the turtles go through elsewhere recently.

Yeah I was dissapointed with this issue, compared to others at least. As Powder puts it, the issue was "Lackluster", but the ending was good.

Spoiler:

WHen I first saw the assassin it reminded me of the Mystery inc villian in the 1st season finale

[Plasticplayhouse]

Fun issue. I loved the art! So good to see Kevin's work again. The coloring work was great too.