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Demented Utrom · 03-22-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeha, here's to crappy matches and retarded homosexual joke rap references. WORD LIFE

Agrees I hate John Cena to.His gimmick is so outdated.It would work in the 1990s.not now.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-22-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shredder utrom

Agrees I hate John Cena to.His gimmick is so outdated.It would work in the 1990s.not now.

The sad truth is, both Cena and Batista can't wrestle a damn lick, except there so popular, the've been pushed into the main event scene before there even ready, Batista shows an eagerness to improve in different ways, but Cena is just completly unmotivated.

J.B.L is'nt a worthwhile choice as champion either, but he's a better worker than Cena currently is.

ZodiacAngel · 03-23-2005, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The sad truth is, both Cena and Batista can't wrestle a damn lick, except there so popular, the've been pushed into the main event scene before there even ready, Batista shows an eagerness to improve in different ways, but Cena is just completly unmotivated.

J.B.L is'nt a worthwhile choice as champion either, but he's a better worker than Cena currently is.

I have to agree with you on all points.

If John Cena wants to be champion so back, he should concentrate on his wrestling skills, not his so called "rapping" skills.

**GK Punk** · 03-23-2005, 03:21 AM

I'm just curious. I'd like to know what everyone's dream list of Champions would be, including people in the title scene, using the current Rosters and Titles.

RAW:

World Heavyweight Champion: Jericho
Contender lists: Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Batista, Edge, Christian, Orton, Benoit and Kane. Of course, the title should be bounced back and forth semi often between any combination of those people. I may be Jericho biased, but I can't help it

Intercontinental Champion: Matt Hardy (Asuming he stays on RAW)
Contender lists: Shelton Benjamin, "Sugar" Shane Helms (Revert him back to his WCW Gimmick it was OVER) William Regal, Tajiri, and several of the World Title Contenders to make the IC Title seem that Important.

I'll ignore the Tag, and Women's titles, as there is practically no Tag Teams or Women's stars... Someone Bring Alexis Laree up from OVW!

Smackdown:

WWE Title: Eddie Guerrero
JBL, Cena, The Big Show, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, the Undertaker Kurt Angle, RVD

US Champion: Billy Kidman
Hardcore Holly, Chavo Guerrero, Jindrak, Carlito (as well as the list of WWE title contenders)

*JameO* · 03-23-2005, 09:34 AM

World Heavyweight Champion: Benoit
Intercontinental Champion: Shelton Benjamin
WWE Title: John Cena
US Champion: Eddie Guerrero

And also Zarius, you suck. Simple but effective.

ZodiacAngel · 03-23-2005, 09:47 AM

My list of champions:

World Heavyweight Championship: Chris Benoit
My other picks: Edge, Christian, Batista. Shawn Michaels

Intercontinental Championship:Shelton Benjamin
My other picks: Matt Hardy, Steven Richards.

WWE Championship: Eddie Guerrero
My other picks: JBL, Kurt Angle, Booker T.

US Championship: Carlito Caribbean Cool
My other picks: Rob Van Dam, Rene Dupree.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-23-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JameO

And also Zarius, you suck. Simple but effective.

"Effective?" you could'nt have put a dent in a wall with that remark, thanks for showing just how narrow-minded marks for John "Two move wonder" Cena are when somebody expresses an opinion.

Did you see other marks for Cena like Allyson react to that line I made huh? NO, because she's you know...mature enough to respect my thoughts on Cena and continued the conversation, YOU did'nt

Cena sucks. Fact of life. Deal with it

*JameO* · 03-23-2005, 02:57 PM

Well, it is called a joke, deal with it and stop being a SOB. And to make matters worse, Alison is not a chick. But if you want to think of him that way then be my guest.

Peanut · 03-23-2005, 03:22 PM

World Heavyweight Championship: CHRISTIAN!
Contenders: HHH, Kane, Edge, Benoit, Jericho, HBK

Intercontinental Championship: Orton
Contenders: Batista, Shelton, Snitsky, Chris Masters, Maven

WWE Heavyweight Championship: John Cena
Contenders: JBL, Eddie, Angle, Big Show, Undertaker

US Championship: RVD
Contenders: Orlando, Mysterio, Booker T, Carlito, Jindrak, Dupree

*KROW* · 03-23-2005, 11:10 PM

Since when is saying someone sucks a joke, JameO?

I.C. Champion: Maven
Others: Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Tajiri, Matt Hardy

U.S. Champion: RVD
Others: Mark Jindrak, JBL, Orlando Jordan, Hardcore Holly

Cruiserweight Champion: Spike Dudley
Others: Rey Mysterio, Paul London, Chavo Guerrero, Super Crazy (when he gets there)

As for the World Titles, I'd rather they unify the belts again, making one World Title, thereby having the champion exclusive to both brands, which was a good concept. Also, the Royal Rumble would make more sense and not be so damn confusing and frustrating.

World Champion: Chris Jericho
Others: Booker T, Kurt Angle, Edge, Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, RVD, Undertaker, and... why not? Christian. I think he's ready for a shot.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-24-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KROW

Since when is saying someone sucks a joke, JameO?

It was a joke?

I apologise if it was

Jet-ski_Ninja · 03-24-2005, 11:54 AM

World Heavy Weight Champion: Chris Benoit
Contenders: Randy Orton, Edge, Batista, HHH, Kane, HBK, Y2J

IC: Simon Dean (lol!)

Contenders: Shelton Benjamin, Gene Snitsky, Muhamad Hassan, Maven, Christian

WWE Champion: The Undertaker
Contenders: Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena, Booker T

US Champion: Mark Jindrak(Maybe)
Contenders: Carlito Caribean Cool, Kenzo Suzuki, RVD

*ZariusTwo* · 03-24-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet-ski_Ninja

World Heavy Weight Champion: Chris Benoit
Contenders: Randy Orton, Edge, Batista, HHH, Kane, HBK, Y2J

IC: Simon Dean (lol!)

Contenders: Shelton Benjamin, Gene Snitsky, Muhamad Hassan, Maven, Christian[/COLOR]

Too bad Dean's chracter restricts his excellent wrestling ability, otherwise he'd be deserving of the World Championship.

Christian is far above the IC belt now, unfortunatly, managment refuses to acknowledge that.

Undertaker's a dinosaur, and is only holding people down, remember when he was putting over guys like Lesnar cleanly? Where the hell is THAT Undertaker? Someone who elevates somebody?

Peanut · 03-29-2005, 06:52 PM

I thought RAW was ok last night. The match with Benoit was awesome though. I didn't catch all of it, but I would have expected a little better for the last one before WM though.

**GK Punk** · 04-03-2005, 12:09 PM

Happy Wrestlemania Everyone! It;s the most magical day of the year!!!

ZodiacAngel · 04-03-2005, 03:33 PM

I hope Wrestlemania will be good this year.

What are everybody's picks for the winners of the matches at Wrestlemania 21?

My picks are

World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H verses Batista
My pick: Batista

WWE Championship
JBL verses John Cena
My pick: JBL(I really don't want John Cena to win, but it seems that WWE is pushing Cena to win the belt.)

WWE Women's Championship
Trish Stratus verses Christy Hemme
My pick: Trish Stratus

"Money in the Bank" Ladder Match
(The winner earns a shot at the World Heavyweight Title)
Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kane vs. Edge vs. Christian vs. WWE IC Champion Shelton Benjamin
My pick: Anyone but Kane

Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle
My pick: I really don't know. For the sake of choosing, I'll pick Shawn Michaels.

The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton
My pick: I really don't care who wins at this point. I guess The Undertaker.

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
My pick: Eddie Guerrero

Sumo Wrestling Challenge
Big Show vs. Akebono
My pick: Don't know, don't care.

The Piper's Pit: with Stone Cold Steve Austin
This will be very interesting.......

Peanut · 04-03-2005, 08:10 PM

Thoughts on Wrestlemania? I thought it was pretty cool. There were some really cool moments, and the crowd was pretty good for the most part. Most of the matches were very good. The two main events and the womens match were probably the only ones that weren't up to standards. Very week ending for both title matches. All in all it was pretty good.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-03-2005, 08:26 PM

Great Wrestlemania far better than Wrestlemania 20.

With the exception of the Women's championship match, 'and Batista winning the belt from Hunter, every match was pretty much well booked.

Eddie vs Rey was VERY dissapointing, Eddie looked unmotivated, and Mysterio's always been overated, fourtunatly the ladder match came along and showed them how to have a great match, Benoit broke his shoulder, nose, and cut himself open, and stole the match, Edge winning was the right decision.

Orton vs Undertaker...well...that was a great match, probably 'Takers' greatest match in a long time, but the finish sucked, Orton deserved to end the 'Taker's streak, and that dinosaur STILL did'nt job.

Fourtunatly, Micheals DID job...cleanly...to Angle in one of the greatest wrestling matches ever, seriously, the crowd were behind Angle and Micheals in this classic more than they were with the main event matches, Micheals tapping gained him far more respect.

J.B.L vs Cena was great for what it was, you have to remember...these guys suck, so seven minutes for them is perfect, and the right person won.

Peanut · 04-03-2005, 08:31 PM

The only problem I had with the Michaels/Angle match was that it was super slow in the beginning. Real wrestling like that is all well and good, but Michaels putting Angle in a headlock time and time again for 5 minutes was pretty tiring. After that it was pure gold, the ending in particular.

Demented Utrom · 04-03-2005, 09:29 PM

The reason Orton lost because he was being punished for his childish backstage antics.

He is also having shoulder sugery and will be out for 6 months.

03-23-2005, 09:34 AM	#225
JameO Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,753	World Heavyweight Champion: Benoit Intercontinental Champion: Shelton Benjamin WWE Title: John Cena US Champion: Eddie Guerrero And also Zarius, you suck. Simple but effective. __________________ "Lie, Cheat & Steal, Atleast I'm Honest"

03-23-2005, 09:47 AM	#226
ZodiacAngel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Sanctuary Posts: 104	My list of champions: World Heavyweight Championship: Chris Benoit My other picks: Edge, Christian, Batista. Shawn Michaels Intercontinental Championship:Shelton Benjamin My other picks: Matt Hardy, Steven Richards. WWE Championship: Eddie Guerrero My other picks: JBL, Kurt Angle, Booker T. US Championship: Carlito Caribbean Cool My other picks: Rob Van Dam, Rene Dupree. __________________ Piccolo: We can't give up just because things aren't the way we want them to be ~History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.~

03-23-2005, 02:57 PM	#228
JameO Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,753	Well, it is called a joke, deal with it and stop being a SOB. And to make matters worse, Alison is not a chick. But if you want to think of him that way then be my guest. __________________ "Lie, Cheat & Steal, Atleast I'm Honest"

03-23-2005, 11:10 PM	#230
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,415	Since when is saying someone sucks a joke, JameO? I.C. Champion: Maven Others: Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Tajiri, Matt Hardy U.S. Champion: RVD Others: Mark Jindrak, JBL, Orlando Jordan, Hardcore Holly Cruiserweight Champion: Spike Dudley Others: Rey Mysterio, Paul London, Chavo Guerrero, Super Crazy (when he gets there) As for the World Titles, I'd rather they unify the belts again, making one World Title, thereby having the champion exclusive to both brands, which was a good concept. Also, the Royal Rumble would make more sense and not be so damn confusing and frustrating. World Champion: Chris Jericho Others: Booker T, Kurt Angle, Edge, Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, RVD, Undertaker, and... why not? Christian. I think he's ready for a shot. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

03-24-2005, 11:54 AM	#232
Jet-ski_Ninja Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 189	World Heavy Weight Champion: Chris Benoit Contenders: Randy Orton, Edge, Batista, HHH, Kane, HBK, Y2J IC: Simon Dean (lol!) Contenders: Shelton Benjamin, Gene Snitsky, Muhamad Hassan, Maven, Christian WWE Champion: The Undertaker Contenders: Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena, Booker T US Champion: Mark Jindrak(Maybe) Contenders: Carlito Caribean Cool, Kenzo Suzuki, RVD __________________ I'm back!

03-23-2005, 03:21 AM	#224
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,437	I'm just curious. I'd like to know what everyone's dream list of Champions would be, including people in the title scene, using the current Rosters and Titles. RAW: World Heavyweight Champion: Jericho Contender lists: Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Batista, Edge, Christian, Orton, Benoit and Kane. Of course, the title should be bounced back and forth semi often between any combination of those people. I may be Jericho biased, but I can't help it Intercontinental Champion: Matt Hardy (Asuming he stays on RAW) Contender lists: Shelton Benjamin, "Sugar" Shane Helms (Revert him back to his WCW Gimmick it was OVER) William Regal, Tajiri, and several of the World Title Contenders to make the IC Title seem that Important. I'll ignore the Tag, and Women's titles, as there is practically no Tag Teams or Women's stars... Someone Bring Alexis Laree up from OVW! Smackdown: WWE Title: Eddie Guerrero JBL, Cena, The Big Show, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, the Undertaker Kurt Angle, RVD US Champion: Billy Kidman Hardcore Holly, Chavo Guerrero, Jindrak, Carlito (as well as the list of WWE title contenders)

03-23-2005, 03:22 PM	#229
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	World Heavyweight Championship: CHRISTIAN! Contenders: HHH, Kane, Edge, Benoit, Jericho, HBK Intercontinental Championship: Orton Contenders: Batista, Shelton, Snitsky, Chris Masters, Maven WWE Heavyweight Championship: John Cena Contenders: JBL, Eddie, Angle, Big Show, Undertaker US Championship: RVD Contenders: Orlando, Mysterio, Booker T, Carlito, Jindrak, Dupree

03-29-2005, 06:52 PM	#234
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I thought RAW was ok last night. The match with Benoit was awesome though. I didn't catch all of it, but I would have expected a little better for the last one before WM though.

04-03-2005, 12:09 PM	#235
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,437	Happy Wrestlemania Everyone! It;s the most magical day of the year!!!

04-03-2005, 03:33 PM	#236
ZodiacAngel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Sanctuary Posts: 104	I hope Wrestlemania will be good this year. What are everybody's picks for the winners of the matches at Wrestlemania 21? My picks are World Heavyweight Championship Triple H verses Batista My pick: Batista WWE Championship JBL verses John Cena My pick: JBL(I really don't want John Cena to win, but it seems that WWE is pushing Cena to win the belt.) WWE Women's Championship Trish Stratus verses Christy Hemme My pick: Trish Stratus "Money in the Bank" Ladder Match (The winner earns a shot at the World Heavyweight Title) Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kane vs. Edge vs. Christian vs. WWE IC Champion Shelton Benjamin My pick: Anyone but Kane Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle My pick: I really don't know. For the sake of choosing, I'll pick Shawn Michaels. The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton My pick: I really don't care who wins at this point. I guess The Undertaker. Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio My pick: Eddie Guerrero Sumo Wrestling Challenge Big Show vs. Akebono My pick: Don't know, don't care. The Piper's Pit: with Stone Cold Steve Austin This will be very interesting....... __________________ Piccolo: We can't give up just because things aren't the way we want them to be ~History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.~

04-03-2005, 08:10 PM	#237
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Thoughts on Wrestlemania? I thought it was pretty cool. There were some really cool moments, and the crowd was pretty good for the most part. Most of the matches were very good. The two main events and the womens match were probably the only ones that weren't up to standards. Very week ending for both title matches. All in all it was pretty good.

04-03-2005, 08:26 PM	#238
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,882	Great Wrestlemania far better than Wrestlemania 20. With the exception of the Women's championship match, 'and Batista winning the belt from Hunter, every match was pretty much well booked. Eddie vs Rey was VERY dissapointing, Eddie looked unmotivated, and Mysterio's always been overated, fourtunatly the ladder match came along and showed them how to have a great match, Benoit broke his shoulder, nose, and cut himself open, and stole the match, Edge winning was the right decision. Orton vs Undertaker...well...that was a great match, probably 'Takers' greatest match in a long time, but the finish sucked, Orton deserved to end the 'Taker's streak, and that dinosaur STILL did'nt job. Fourtunatly, Micheals DID job...cleanly...to Angle in one of the greatest wrestling matches ever, seriously, the crowd were behind Angle and Micheals in this classic more than they were with the main event matches, Micheals tapping gained him far more respect. J.B.L vs Cena was great for what it was, you have to remember...these guys suck, so seven minutes for them is perfect, and the right person won. __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

04-03-2005, 08:31 PM	#239
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	The only problem I had with the Michaels/Angle match was that it was super slow in the beginning. Real wrestling like that is all well and good, but Michaels putting Angle in a headlock time and time again for 5 minutes was pretty tiring. After that it was pure gold, the ending in particular.

04-03-2005, 09:29 PM	#240
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	The reason Orton lost because he was being punished for his childish backstage antics. He is also having shoulder sugery and will be out for 6 months.

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