Where did TMNT succeed while Heman failed?

[Coola Yagami]

It was due to the toys not selling, which is why I hate toy driven shows. No matter how awesome the show might be, if the toys don't sell, pull the plug. Had the TMNT toys bombed, the Nick show wouldn't have lasted past season 2.

He-Man did indeed have some sort of plans for Hordak returning in the third season. But again, the toys. And the last ones were getting really lazy and were mostly repaints and variants.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by sdp

He-Man is gay.

How do you know and if so why should that matter?

Originally Posted by neatoman

Hate? It's a show meant for 5 year olds and my comments don't go beyond questioning quality or making jabs, you're one who keeps taking offense at it. You're being melodramatic over nothing.

You haven't made one fair criticism of the show. You're quick to attack others for making posts when you don't contribute anything of use apart from a pointless thread of why David Wise copied Superman. When you say that the FW series is for five year olds not only do you disrespect five year olds but any fan on this forum that grew up watching the show and is still a fan of it. I also don't take harassment by three members of this forum as being 'melodramatic'.

Originally Posted by neatoman

you get mad when someone makes fun of something you watched when you were still learning how to read. You realise how sad and pathetic that is, right?

You know what's sad and pathetic? Not allowing people to have a different opinion to yourself. Sure when you grow up maybe you'll learn but while on this board you can't not expect people to take offence with things you say especially when you attack others. THAT is pathetic. Of course what's also pathetic is hogging the Ask The Editor page and sucking up to Bobby Curnow then accusing me for liking a show you don't like.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

You haven't made one fair criticism of the show.

It's full of animation errors, plotholes, continuity errors and blatant commercialism. How is that not fair to say? It's true.

Originally Posted by pferreira

When you say that the FW series is for five year olds not only do you disrespect five year olds but any fan on this forum that grew up watching the show and is still a fan of it.

This is hilarious. Stating who the target audience was is an insult towards the target audience and those being nostalgic for it from when they were the target audience? Seriously?

Originally Posted by pferreira

I also don't take harassment by three members of this forum as being 'melodramatic'.

You're not being harrassed, you just can't tell the difference between jokes and insults.

Originally Posted by pferreira

You know what's sad and pathetic? Not allowing people to have a different opinion to yourself. Sure when you grow up maybe you'll learn but while on this board you can't not expect people to take offence with things you say especially when you attack others.

Again, you are not being attacked, you just have a thin skin and you go for bottom of the barrel retorts.

Originally Posted by pferreira

Of course what's also pathetic is hogging the Ask The Editor page and sucking up to Bobby Curnow then accusing me for liking a show you don't like.

... What? How am I hogging it up or sucking up to him? I'm just asking questions about recent issues and pointing out if I liked something, that's what that thread is for and what everyone else uses it for.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

It's full of animation errors, plotholes, continuity errors and blatant commercialism. How is that not fair to say? It's true.

But you could say the same thing about the your precious IDW series?

Originally Posted by neatoman

This is hilarious. Stating who the target audience was is an insult towards the target audience and those being nostalgic for it from when they were the target audience? Seriously?

Yeah and many people here feel you've stepped out of line. All I've seen is rudeness from you towards other users here talking about something they like, week in week out.

Originally Posted by neatoman

Again, you are not being attacked, you just have a thin skin and you go for bottom of the barrel retorts.

Maybe they do things differently in Sweden but in other parts of the world that is called harassment.

Originally Posted by neatoman

How am I hogging it up or sucking up to him? I'm just asking questions about recent issues and pointing out if I liked something, that's what that thread is for and what everyone else uses it for.

Oh right so it's ok for you to go on the IDW forum and gush about the comic but people who are fans of the FW series aren't allowed to do the same thing on the General Forum because you don't like the show? Talk about being a hypocrite.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

But you could say the same thing about the your precious IDW series?

Have you read it? Please point out the plotholes and continuity errors to me.

Originally Posted by pferreira

Yeah and many people here feel you've stepped out of line. All I've seen is rudeness from you towards other users here talking about something they like, week in week out.

Good day, Axe Handle. Now would you mind actually answering the question, how is it an insult to point out who the target audience were?

Originally Posted by pferreira

Maybe they do things differently in Sweden but in other parts of the world that is called harassment.

The source of the conflict is usually you, you get mad at a joke or take criticism of a cartoon as a personal insult. It's not harrassment.

Originally Posted by pferreira

Oh right so it's ok for you to go on the IDW forum and gush about the comic but people who are fans of the FW series aren't allowed to do the same thing on the General Forum because you don't like the show? Talk about being a hypocrite.

They are allowed to, you just can't stand criticism of it for some petty reason. Stop taking an old cartoon so seriously, it's not worth getting mad over.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Have you read it? Please point out the plotholes and continuity errors to me.

No I haven' t read it. I'll leave it to someone else to point out all the plotholes because I'm sure there are. I know it's your precious comic but sorry to say this but it isn't any better than any other iteration of the TMNT franchise. Live with it.

Originally Posted by neatoman

Good day, Axe Handle. Now would you mind actually answering the question, how is it an insult to point out who the target audience were?

Probably because anyone who isn't a moron would know the show wasn't meant to be seen by five year olds. Instead you diss anyone who still likes the show. Well done, you're going to continue to make friends here as you have already.

Originally Posted by neatoman

The source of the conflict is usually you, you get mad at a joke or take criticism of a cartoon as a personal insult. It's not harrassment.

Don't you DARE try to turn this on me. You're the one causing trouble, you're the one trolling. Nobody wants you to know you, nobody cares about trolls so just go away will you?

Originally Posted by neatoman

They are allowed to, you just can't stand criticism of it for some petty reason. Stop taking an old cartoon so seriously, it's not worth getting mad over.

People have every right to want me to report you. I'll stop getting mad when you stop acting like a total troll.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

No I haven' t read it. I'll leave it to someone else to point out all the plotholes because I'm sure there are. I know it's your precious comic but sorry to say this but it isn't any better than any other iteration of the TMNT franchise. Live with it.

Uh-huh, so what you're saying is that if I watch a show and end up not liking it, even pointing out why I don't like it, I should just accept that a comic I really liked isn't better than it. Even though you literally have nothing to criticise about the comic, because you haven't bothered to check it out and you even refuse to dig up someone else's criticisms of it.

You do realise how insane that sounds, right?

[Netkeeper]

I love how he thinks his personal opinion dictates objective quality

Also neatoman doesn't attack me and I like the show, what now huh? checkmate atheists

[GoldMutant]

..... No comment on the two/three way.
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It's definitely the toylines and possibly other media that keeps He-Man down though. That really sucks as I liked the 2000 cartoon and the original is still a classic.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by pferreira

No I haven' t read it. I'll leave it to someone else to point out all the plotholes because I'm sure there are. I know it's your precious comic but sorry to say this but it isn't any better than any other iteration of the TMNT franchise. Live with it.

I mean, I think we could come up with a set of objective criteria to compare the two and I know that IDW would come out on top. I mean, the OT was fine back in the day but I could never go back and watch it now and enjoy it in the same way, because I'm an adult and my sensibilities and understanding of the world have developed since then

Originally Posted by pferreira

Probably because anyone who isn't a moron would know the show wasn't meant to be seen by five year olds. Instead you diss anyone who still likes the show. Well done, you're going to continue to make friends here as you have already.

The show was most definitely geared towards young children. There is a very slight amount of wiggle room in what we define as "young children"

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Uh-huh, so what you're saying is that if I watch a show and end up not liking it, even pointing out why I don't like it, I should just accept that a comic I really liked isn't better than it. Even though you literally have nothing to criticise about the comic, because you haven't bothered to check it out and you even refuse to dig up someone else's criticisms of it.

You do realise how insane that sounds, right?

Nope, you sound insane. I don't give a monkeys whether you like the Fred Wolf cartoon, you have no right to troll other posts where people want to talk about something you don't like 'because as we all know the Fred Wolf series is crap right?" I mean this forum you're posting on was built on that show you hate so much.

First: get a reality check

Second: start being nicer towards each other. Don't criticise what other people like as inferior because technically speaking you love a show where the lead characters are reincarnated samurai!

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I love how he thinks his personal opinion dictates objective quality

I completely agree. Neatoman is a complete troll.

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Also neatoman doesn't attack me and I like the show, what now huh? checkmate atheists

You should friend him, you can start trolling together eh because that's just what this board needs right?

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

The show was most definitely geared towards young children. There is a very slight amount of wiggle room in what we define as "young children"

Five year olds yes. Or was that supposed to be older? Oh who cares it's a neatoman observation and those are crap.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by pferreira

I completely agree. Neatoman is a complete troll.

I was talking about you. Or are you trying to say I got the wrong pronoun

Originally Posted by pferreira

You should friend him, you can start trolling together eh because that's just what this board needs right?

If he attacked people that liked the show, as you claim, he wouldn't friend me