Official Episode Discussion S5 Ep 05 & 6: When Worlds Collide

[Utrommaniac]

I've described the show as "half baked" for a while. Not just half baked, but covered over with icing so it looks pretty until you bite into it.

[CyberCubed]

A lot of these aspects were covered in the various episodes. Let's see.

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Saki kidnapping Yoshi's infant daughter after the "incident" and blaming all his own faults on Yoshi.

This was brought up in almost every big Shredder or Karai episode for the first three seasons, then it was put on hold for a bit when Karai turned into a snake and was brainwashed, but then they went back to it and covered it.

Shredder really did love Karai, but so did Splinter. By the end Shredder's descent into madness and mutation was his transformation into the monster he always was and led to his demise.

Brainwashed Utroms acting in a hivemind for one mutant Utrom, who by all means should have the same ego issues as Shredder.

Which was covered. I don't think it's any more complicated than Kraang Prime being the mutant hivemind, Kraang sub-prime likely being it's offspring, and them having the other Utroms enslaved under their control.

April having Utrom genetics somehow or another.

This I'll give you, April's backstory is all kinds of crazy.

But it had to focus on DONNIE LIEKS APRIL and load up on filler.

Don's crush on April was never anything more than some 2 minute comedic scenes in various episodes. I think only one full episode really focused on this, and even then it had other stuff.

While the show does have a lot of one-shot filler mutants, that's the same for any series. You can't have the Turtles fighting Shredder or the Kraang in every single episode.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I've described the show as "half baked" for a while. Not just half baked, but covered over with icing so it looks pretty until you bite into it.

That's just about the most accurate description I've seen on this show.

[Powder]

Pretty fun episode, I liked it. By far Mona's most tolerable appearance, but I still dislike her & how she affects the series.

[Toadtrooper]

deus ex machina -
(in ancient Greek and Roman drama) a god introduced into a play to resolve the entanglements of the plot.

That's the episode. Without awarding new random god powers (because apparently April doesn't have enough of those), Dregg would have won. That's why the Salamandrians' battle with Dregg is more interesting even though we only see a few seconds of it. Because they didn't get a deus ex machina. They had to earn their victory.

And the episode never, ever had to be this convoluted. Peter Stormare's word vomit never needed to be on this show ever again. It should have just been Raph and Y'Gythgba taking down the Newtralizer together, showing that they're compatible and complementary to each and not just the show shipping people because it's sinking.

That it turned into an overextended Mikey episode is disappointing. And how are the Mutanimals always recruiting? It's been three core members and a rotating fourth since forever. Not exactly expanding...

I did roll my eyes at the Utrom yoga scene, but it's a little funny because they're brains and thus their 'body' and 'mind' are the same thing. More clever than a Kraang throwing a random gluten-free diet reference.

If I had to give it a star rating, I'd say it's **** Peter Stormare and his voice.

[Ninjinister]

Every single time I change vendors for this show because I notice/am told that they upload the episode same day, I get crap like this... three days later and still nothing on Microsoft/Xbox store.

[JH24]

I saw a few of the Donnie/April and Leo/karai scenes. The scene with "he's got weird tastes" was funny and awkward at the same time. Loved their expressions though.


I don't get one thing. Isn't Karai in a sense considered their sister? Or was that never mentioned in the series?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by JH24

I don't get one thing. Isn't Karai in a sense considered their sister? Or was that never mentioned in the series?

It was mentioned a few times. When Splinter told the turtles (except Leo, who already knew) in Wormquake, Mikey said in a shocked tone that Karai was their sister.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Not every fan believes in that, which is why they create there own fan fiction to fix there grievances.

So, you believe that will now affect the official series writers?

[LeoRaDoMic]

Pfff, what´s happening with this show. After the TOO long break I was really looking forward to this episode but it has nothing to do with Ninja´s anymore...

Also the love interest for each Turtle is not why I´m watching.

Think I´m gonna give up this show...

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

Pfff, what´s happening with this show. After the TOO long break I was really looking forward to this episode but it has nothing to do with Ninja´s anymore...

What. There's plenty of ninja action moves in this and every other episode. Other than Mikey's electricity powers, the Turtles all used ninjitsu against Dregg's bugs.

Also the love interest for each Turtle is not why I´m watching.

The shipping is such a minor part of this show I have no idea why people keep trying to make big deal out of it. That's why you're not watching? Even the Mona Lisa romance with Raph was very toned down in this episode compared to all the others.

Think I´m gonna give up this show...

This is the final season. I don't know what this even means given the show is ending.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by LeoRaDoMic

Pfff, what´s happening with this show. After the TOO long break I was really looking forward to this episode but it has nothing to do with Ninja´s anymore...

Also the love interest for each Turtle is not why I´m watching.

Think I´m gonna give up this show...

Seriously, I don't know why they need to inject all this nonsense into this show. It's like a young girl's fan fiction.

[Powder]

They've definitely bent to the will of their vocal minority.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

It was mentioned a few times. When Splinter told the turtles (except Leo, who already knew) in Wormquake, Mikey said in a shocked tone that Karai was their sister.

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. I thought they once mentioned it but I couldn't remember.

With Leo and Raph both having found someone, I wonder if they're going to add some closure or development to Donnie and Mikey later on.

[Utrommaniac]

This was basically what Newtralizer's reasoning for attacking Utroms felt like.



Not the best interpretation of the meme, but C'Est la Vie

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

This was basically what Newtralizer's reasoning for attacking Utroms felt like.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...psgofdz1ai.jpg

Not the best interpretation of the meme, but C'Est la Vie

Don't think I've seen this meme before, is he supposed to be repeating it in annoying voice?

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

This was basically what Newtralizer's reasoning for attacking Utroms felt like.

Yep, pretty accurate. They just made him a generic villain, bad cuz he's bad. No motive, no nothing. I wish they didn't do this. They could have paid proper homage and made him a hunter looking for the perfect prey, like the Predator he's based off of. Could have given Newtralizer and Sal Commander a big epic fight, nope. Just a bunch of disappointment that could have been avoided.

[Utrommaniac]

It's the "mocking Spongebob meme"



And yeah, it was a load of disappointment. I really, REALLY could have gone without Dregg showing up.

[xenopokemon]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

And yeah, it was a load of disappointment. I really, REALLY could have gone without Dregg showing up.

Sadly, when shows come to a close, things just get slapped together for a quick and not-so-satisfying resolution. Thus, Dregg had to show up. Evenif his head got knocked off and he was frozen in space without an ounce of explanation.

[Utrommaniac]

I mean, it could have been an episode wrapping up the Kraang/Utrom ordeal that was...barely a thing. It could have been had it been brought in earlier on.