New Show coming in 2018

[Tortuglio]

Originally Posted by Ectomane

Just imagine, these could have been the new Ninja Turtles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F4Y76dh3PM

Ugh, totally. When people starts complaining about looking like TTG i think of these (which was a blend with MAD). We are lucky we avoided those turds!

To me, they're targeting the show towards the kids fromt 2012 that've grown up into preteens or even teenagers. I mean, magic powers? hulking raph? Seems to me like something a preteen or teen would think would make the turtles "badasses".

The desings aren't bad, they aren't unwatchable... except for Splinter. At least in that only picture he looks terrible, like constrained The important thing here is that the scripts are good and that the animation it's fluid and well done.

I don't know, we'll have to wait and see how good or bad it is.

Originally Posted by shihe

I just hope ROTMNT brings a good era of games too.

And this, of course

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Donaterro

Yeah you're right, we won't know until then. I agree with the forced PC too, I wish we could go back to the sexy 87 April

Even if the show turns out to be total PC trash, I would still watch any episode that crosses the 2012 or 80s turtles in. I would say the 2003 turtles, but that ain't gonna happen.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

I would say the 2003 turtles, but that ain't gonna happen.

Not enough Beebop! Or Pizza Face!

[newfan]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Even if the show turns out to be total PC trash, I would still watch any episode that crosses the 2012 or 80s turtles in. I would say the 2003 turtles, but that ain't gonna happen.

Why do people think they won't include 2003? Just curious, is there a reason or people generally think they don't care about it or there's too much to fit in already?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

Why do people think they won't include 2003? Just curious, is there a reason or people generally think they don't care about it or there's too much to fit in already?

Because they had like 5 crossovers in 2012 and 4Kids show up in precisely 0. Just lots of Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf service.

[TurtleWA]

I can understand not liking a design. But I wonder what made the internet explode with anger and hate yesterday? Did older fans expect an 87’ clone? That would be boring to have the exact same thing over, over and over again. And disrespectful in my opinion to try and make an identical duplicate of the 87’ show. Yeah draw a little inspiration from the past but not clone.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Because they had like 5 crossovers in 2012 and 4Kids show up in precisely 0. Just lots of Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf service.

Yeah, still that show liked to acknowledge the original toon (as in where the toons started) in the new show they will have different dimensions so scope for seeing various incarnations, if they choose to use it that is.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by TurtleWA

I can understand not liking a design. But I wonder what made the internet explode with anger and hate yesterday? Did older fans expect an 87’ clone? That would be boring to have the exact same thing over, over and over again. And disrespectful in my opinion to try and make an identical duplicate of the 87’ show. Yeah draw a little inspiration from the past but not clone.

The places I saw seemed to be about 85% hate. rather surprised considering the love fest that is this new generation.

Personally, I just HATE stylized design. and change for the sake of change. that is what this screams of. and it doesn't feel like it comes from a place of love, but a place of, what can we change?

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I watched the reveal livestream on YouTube and it didn’t give me the best impression. Rob Paulson sure was pleasant, the interviewer did the best he could, and having Kevin there is never a bad thing, but the producers of the show didn’t seem too enthused and forgot to show any sort of passion for their work.

yeah, the producers, or whoever they where, look like they where sleep walking through the whole thing.

[Donaterro]

Originally Posted by TurtleWA

I can understand not liking a design. But I wonder what made the internet explode with anger and hate yesterday? Did older fans expect an 87’ clone? That would be boring to have the exact same thing over, over and over again. And disrespectful in my opinion to try and make an identical duplicate of the 87’ show. Yeah draw a little inspiration from the past but not clone.

Probably because the designs for the most part are not aesthetically pleasing.
Changing too many things about their personalities, weapons, etc.



This is what was pitched to Cartoon Network in 2001, when you could have awesome looking Turtles like this, and get what we're given instead. The rage is understandable. It could be so easy, really.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by TurtleWA

I can understand not liking a design. But I wonder what made the internet explode with anger and hate yesterday? Did older fans expect an 87’ clone? That would be boring to have the exact same thing over, over and over again. And disrespectful in my opinion to try and make an identical duplicate of the 87’ show. Yeah draw a little inspiration from the past but not clone.

I honestly believe most casual fans do want an '87 clone honestly, a lot of casual fans I know still think the 2012 series is something they'll get on board with...thinking the FW series is still the "original"

[eskater]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Because they had like 5 crossovers in 2012 and 4Kids show up in precisely 0. Just lots of Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf service.

Even as a fan of most iterations I was getting kind of sick of the FW service.

[TurtleWA]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

The places I saw seemed to be about 85% hate. rather surprised considering the love fest that is this new generation.

Personally, I just HATE stylized design. and change for the sake of change. that is what this screams of. and it doesn't feel like it comes from a place of love, but a place of, what can we change?

Originally Posted by Donaterro

Probably because the designs for the most part are not aesthetically pleasing.
Changing too many things about their personalities, weapons, etc.

Originally Posted by eskater

I honestly believe most casual fans do want an '87 clone honestly, a lot of casual fans I know still think the 2012 series is something they'll get on board with...thinking the FW series is still the "original"

Oh. So some maybe expected an ‘87 clone. While others just got hit with to many changes at once. Or needed more reasoning for the changes. And then many just found that the designs made their eyes bleed. Or just prefer a more natural smooth looking design. I can understand that I suppose.

[ABrown]

The designs for the new show look interesting. I'm a little more curious now to see what the final product is going to look like.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Donaterro

One thing I'm noticing, is a lot of you are either neutral or positive on these designs. If you look at the internet on the whole, its 90 percent negative.

I hope the show itself has good writing and makes up for this, but I'm not too hopeful. Time will tell.

Most other people on the internet barely follow TMNT and are casuals, they barely ever watched the other shows or read any comics, etc. It's like the same people cheering for the TMNT included in Injustice even though most of those people never read/watched a TMNT related thing since they were kids.

It's kind of a weird thing, there are people who never revisited TMNT since their childhood in the mid-90's but act like they're authorities on the franchise even though they know nothing else about it. I can't think of any other franchise where people do this, other than Pokemon I suppose. I guess that's the problem with fad franchises, people think it must remain exactly the same as whenever they were first exposed to it as kids.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most other people on the internet barely follow TMNT and are casuals, they barely ever watched the other shows or read any comics, etc. It's like the same people cheering for the TMNT included in Injustice even though most of those people never read/watched a TMNT related thing since they were kids.

It's kind of a weird thing, there are people who never revisited TMNT since their childhood in the mid-90's but act like they're authorities on the franchise even though they know nothing else about it. I can't think of any other franchise where people do this, other than Pokemon I suppose. I guess that's the problem with fad franchises, people think it must remain exactly the same as whenever they were first exposed to it as kids.

CBR posted an article saying pretty much exactly that:

Dear Angry TMNT Fans, It May Be Time to Let Go

[Filespit]

Well, there's certainly enough stuff here to have opinions on.

First of all, I totally understand the wish and decision from the creators of this show to make a new and fresh take on the franchise, and so they've changed a lot of stuff, but in my opinion they've made TOO many changes.

The fact that the Turtles are of different species gives me just as little as giving them different physical attributes to differ them, like the 2012 show did. It obviously also raises the question if they're actually related or not. They could all have the same mother obviously, but hey...

Regarding their designs, I think they could've looked far worse but I'm not really sold on this. I don't get the obsession of making Raph big and bulky because he's the toughest, and making Donnie thin and covered in tech just because he's smart. I'm not against these designs but they do look a bit off for my taste.

Splinter... well, he doesn't look as terrible as the 2014 movie version but still not that great. As for April, I'm not against her switching skin color but to me this feels like a move they made just because they could. Not what I was expecting.

Over all, what disturbs me the most is that once again this franchise stays trapped in the kids category. Obviously it's what is expected from Nickelodeon but still... I will give this a shot, but I'm not completely convinced.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most other people on the internet barely follow TMNT and are casuals, they barely ever watched the other shows or read any comics, etc. It's like the same people cheering for the TMNT included in Injustice even though most of those people never read/watched a TMNT related thing since they were kids.

It's kind of a weird thing, there are people who never revisited TMNT since their childhood in the mid-90's but act like they're authorities on the franchise even though they know nothing else about it. I can't think of any other franchise where people do this, other than Pokemon I suppose. I guess that's the problem with fad franchises, people think it must remain exactly the same as whenever they were first exposed to it as kids.

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

CBR posted an article saying pretty much exactly that:

Dear Angry TMNT Fans, It May Be Time to Let Go

Teen Titans I think gets this kind of treatment I think, Batman to some extent I believe too.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by eskater

Teen Titans I think gets this kind of treatment I think, Batman to some extent I believe too.

The irony of it all is I remember when the 2003 Teen Titans first debuted, it was absolutely hated by comic fans and people also disliked the "fake anime" art style it used. People complained how Starfire was kiddified from her comic counterpart, all the anime joke moments, etc.

Then after it aired the show became incredibly popular, and now the 2003 Teen Titans is considered one of the most popular and nostalgic shows of the 2000's. And all those fans hate on Teen Titans Go.

It's pretty funny, especially for those of us who were old enough to already be online in the early 2000's and remember when THOSE shows got hate.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Inb4 a new Rise of the TMNT forum opens up and Cubed feels the need to go there and educate the newbies.

Your obsession with him is sad and weird. Put some energy into posting about things you do like, it's much better for you. We need more Cybercubeds in this fandom, & less naysayers who speak without offering any insight.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

They only care about the money. They don't give two ****s about the characters.

You haven't the slightest clue. Their involvement with the property goes back 6 years, & they've put a lot of work into both the last & current versions. I have met Andy in person a few years back, we spoke for half an hour or longer, the guy is very much into and proud of what he does. & he's a hard worker, doing animated shorts, his own comic series at IDW, & now an entire TMNT cartoon, all at once, in addition to being a father of two kids. That warrants respect, in my book. He pitched his own show years before it was even a realistic possibility, I'll have you know. You're more than entitled to dislike what he chooses to do with the TMNT, but don't act like he doesn't care just because it doesn't align with your ideals. You don't exactly get rich doing this stuff either, bruh.

Originally Posted by Donaterro

One thing I'm noticing, is a lot of you are either neutral or positive on these designs. If you look at the internet on the whole, its 90 percent negative.

That's because for the most part this forum has an entirely different caliber of fan on it. We're lifers. People who largely find joy in every iteration, barring one or two exceptions apiece. & I don't mean fanboys with no standards who accept anything, I mean fans who generally don't have biases toward "their" version, & understand that the core values of what makes TMNT TMNT is virtually omnipresent. They're only ever mad when New Thing isn't a carbon copy of Old Thing.

Cubed worded it perfectly.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most other people on the internet barely follow TMNT and are casuals, they barely ever watched the other shows or read any comics, etc. It's like the same people cheering for the TMNT included in Injustice even though most of those people never read/watched a TMNT related thing since they were kids.

It's kind of a weird thing, there are people who never revisited TMNT since their childhood in the mid-90's but act like they're authorities on the franchise even though they know nothing else about it. I can't think of any other franchise where people do this, other than Pokemon I suppose. I guess that's the problem with fad franchises, people think it must remain exactly the same as whenever they were first exposed to it as kids.

We've always been on the same page about this, it's so frustrating. Genwunners are definitely similar to the FW-only crowd, though our nostalgia-blind sector is far greater than theirs & as a result has a more significant impact on the brand, unfortunately. I don't know any other fandoms like them.

What ticks me off about the general backlash to their new look is that it comes from the same people who licked the boot of Platinum Dunes & similar fan interpretations who went with the whole "their personality should come across visually" thing. How they could possibly like those designs but not Rise's, which heavily evoke the thought of the former, is beyond me.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The irony of it all is I remember when the 2003 Teen Titans first debuted, it was absolutely hated by comic fans and people also disliked the "fake anime" art style it used. People complained how Starfire was kiddified from her comic counterpart, all the anime joke moments, etc.

Then after it aired the show became incredibly popular, and now the 2003 Teen Titans is considered one of the most popular and nostalgic shows of the 2000's. And all those fans hate on Teen Titans Go.

It's pretty funny, especially for those of us who were old enough to already be online in the early 2000's and remember when THOSE shows got hate.

That's exactly what I'm getting at. And even Teen Titans Go has it's fair share of fans....I mean someone has to be watching it if they show it so much on Cartoon Network. All of this outrage just rings of "I remember back in my day" old man sentiment IMO.