Wolverine 3 - Page 15

*plastroncafe* · 03-12-2017, 07:23 PM

Uh huh. Sure Cyber. Sure.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2017, 07:32 PM

What do you mean? X-23 as a kid can't carry a movie. She was secondary to Wolverine in this one.

A teenage X-23 at the least would be a better idea.

*Redeemer* · 03-12-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Uh huh. Sure Cyber. Sure.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What do you mean? X-23 as a kid can't carry a movie. She was secondary to Wolverine in this one.

A teenage X-23 at the least would be a better idea.

I agree with with Cyber, probably for different reasons, but I feel like if they did give X-21 a solo movie it would probably be better if she was old, bc its more difficult to give a character so young back story and depth. It would be interesting to see X-23 become the leader and establish a new team of X-men.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2017, 07:58 PM

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Actually, I believe Rice said they were putting the stuff in food and water to CREATE more mutants- they wanted to control how and what kind of mutations appeared, not kill them all off. That's why they made all the kids in the first place- they were the first prototypes.

I didn't get that at all out of it. And that's dead wrong. The kids are mutants because they sampled different existing mutants' DNA to clone them... like Wolverine's, as they did in the post-credits scene of "Apocalypse." And made sure they didn't eat the same food while they were cultivating them.

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I really liked this movie (saw it yesterday after my usual D&D game) and thought it was a great end for Wolvie and Charles. I also think they are possibly setting up for a future New Mutants or X-Factor/X-Force movie(s?). Laura/X-23 and Rictor are BOTH members of X-Factor (or were when Peter David was writing the book a few years ago before I stopped buying comics due to lack of access and funds) so they could very well base a new X-movie series on them

Set in the far-off future of 2050, when they're old enough? Never going to happen.

*plastroncafe* · 03-12-2017, 08:05 PM

More difficult doesn't mean impossible.
Chances are good they won't have much a choice in the matter, give that kids have this nasty tendency to grow up while the creative process slogs along.

But either that kid can handle it, or that director has an amazing ability to get top-notch performances out of child actors.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

More difficult doesn't mean impossible.
Chances are good they won't have much a choice in the matter, give that kids have this nasty tendency to grow up while the creative process slogs along.

But either that kid can handle it, or that director has an amazing ability to get top-notch performances out of child actors.

I don't mean that they're going to wait for them to get older, I mean they're not going to use recast older versions of them in some X-Men movie set in an even-more-far-off-future-than-Logan. But they're definitely not going to make some X-Men movie just with those little kids. No chance.

If anything, maybe, maybe in 5 years they might do a standalone sort of "a slightly older X-23 grappling with her father's legacy" with Daphne again kind of a thing. But I doubt it would happen and I would doubt it would be good.

*plastroncafe* · 03-12-2017, 08:40 PM

Much as I'd love for her to get a movie, I hope it doesn't happen.

Not only would the studio likely micromanage and focus group the hell out of it, thus removing any of voice from the story...but they'd likely do the NYX storyline, which is just not good.

But...hey, having X-23 be a barely legal sex-worker would bring in the guys!
Because heaven forbid we augment their safespace.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2017, 08:49 PM

Are you saying a Mexican woman couldn't carry a movie in the modern year?

*sdp* · 03-12-2017, 08:50 PM

X-23 will continue to appear in future movies because f-ck continuity and you're going to like it. Counting these movies come out every two years or so we'll actually see her grow in movies and eventually she'll be a part of the main cast. I mean she's already 12 so by the time the sequel to the upcoming X-Men movie comes out she'll be like 16, not really a kid anymore so she'll be able to not be the annoying kid character and have some type of action scenes.

I also think Jackman will be back as Wolverine, I saw an interview where he wasn't as "oh yeah this is the last time" just that he was retiring from wolverine in films but the wording made it seem like he's up for cameo appearances. I think it's more likely that he'd show up in the Deadpool movies as sort of a gag.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-12-2017, 09:11 PM

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I didn't get that at all out of it. And that's dead wrong. The kids are mutants because they sampled different existing mutants' DNA to clone them... like Wolverine's, as they did in the post-credits scene of "Apocalypse." And made sure they didn't eat the same food while they were cultivating them.

Set in the far-off future of 2050, when they're old enough? Never going to happen.

No, he specifically SAID they were trying to direct and control how mutants appeared in the world- they MADE new mutants, by using the DNA from existing mutants, because none had been born in years. (Wanda's influence?) The kids were just a "failed" experiment because they became more and more difficult to control as they got older. That's why they went with X-24- they were able to basically clone and program their own version of Logan himself. The thing with the food was their next planned experiment- introducing a mutation factor via food and water back into the population. He even TOLD Caliban that! Jeez, it was pretty blatantly spelled out....

As for setting it in the far-off future, it was already 2026, and the kids were all around 12-15 already. So no, not THAT far in the future. Maybe ten years, at most. And New Mutants are not even very old to begin with. Most of them were in their teens- Magma, Cannonball, Sunspot, Cypher, and Magick were all teens. Only Dani and Mirage were older. Dani even became a Valkyrie in Asgard in one storyline. (She was chosen by one of their pegasi mounts to be its next master- apparently the mount has to choose the Valkyrie who rides it.)

*Redeemer* · 03-12-2017, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

More difficult doesn't mean impossible.
Chances are good they won't have much a choice in the matter, give that kids have this nasty tendency to grow up while the creative process slogs along.

But either that kid can handle it, or that director has an amazing ability to get top-notch performances out of child actors.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Much as I'd love for her to get a movie, I hope it doesn't happen.

Not only would the studio likely micromanage and focus group the hell out of it, thus removing any of voice from the story...but they'd likely do the NYX storyline, which is just not good.

But...hey, having X-23 be a barely legal sex-worker would bring in the guys!
Because heaven forbid we augment their safespace.

You pretty much make my point

With how many super-hero movies Fox Botches I don't expect them to be able to pull something like that off.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2017, 09:26 PM

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As for setting it in the far-off future, it was already 2026, and the kids were all around 12-15 already.

Definitely no 15 year olds in that crowd. It was like the cast of Sandlot, minus a year or two. And it was 2029, not 2026.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2017, 09:32 PM

How old is X-23's actress in real life? Isn't she only 10-11?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-12-2017, 09:34 PM

Uh, pretty sure Rictor was at least 14 or 15 there. The oldest, to be sure, but the point stands. When's the last time you saw a 10 year old as tall and mature as he was? Me? Never.

And so I was off by three years. STILL not enough to necessitate going 20 YEARS into the future for a New Mutants film! Yeesh- how slow did you think these kids would age?! (By that logic, they would all be in their late 30's by that time, and thus no longer "The New Mutants".... They'd be the senior X-team in that case.) Granted, X-Factor is a bit older (mid-20's, IIRC), but still not THAT old. And X-23 was a member of both X-Factor and X-Force- which is a much "darker" team that does things the others won't, so that fits how she was shown in Logan. She could easily fit either team in a movie. Or even NM.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2017, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

How old is X-23's actress in real life? Isn't she only 10-11?

Yeah.

And if they did go the route of doing a kids X-Men movie with the kids from the end of Logan, watch them have, like, Jubilee be one of the kids. It's a tradition.

*plastroncafe* · 03-12-2017, 09:39 PM

You really don't think that older kid wasn't 15?
Because I don't have a hard time believing that at all.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2017, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Are you saying a Mexican woman couldn't carry a movie in the modern year?

Nice try, CyberCubed.

*THGhost* · 03-13-2017, 12:16 PM

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Really? As soon as I saw the "fake Logan" kill the kid, I knew who/what it was. They had already shown him and mentioned him a couple of times.

Yep. It kinda came out of nowhere tbh. Especially since the character was made up for the movie. I'd have to watch it again to pick up on that.

*Autbot_Benz* · 04-23-2017, 02:45 PM

Logan will be on Blu Ray May 23rd 2017

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 04-23-2017, 03:14 PM

It's interesting to see how quickly films are being sent to home video these days; the movie only came out in March. Didn't it used to be a 3-4 month wait, if not longer?

I wonder if Mangold is still planning on producing that black-and-white cut.

03-12-2017, 08:50 PM	#289
sdp Megan Fox = April Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 9,999	X-23 will continue to appear in future movies because f-ck continuity and you're going to like it. Counting these movies come out every two years or so we'll actually see her grow in movies and eventually she'll be a part of the main cast. I mean she's already 12 so by the time the sequel to the upcoming X-Men movie comes out she'll be like 16, not really a kid anymore so she'll be able to not be the annoying kid character and have some type of action scenes. I also think Jackman will be back as Wolverine, I saw an interview where he wasn't as "oh yeah this is the last time" just that he was retiring from wolverine in films but the wording made it seem like he's up for cameo appearances. I think it's more likely that he'd show up in the Deadpool movies as sort of a gag. __________________ *Bye* *TMNT !!! I'm unaliving tonight* Click to join The Drome Discord server

03-12-2017, 09:34 PM	#294
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,772	Uh, pretty sure Rictor was at least 14 or 15 there. The oldest, to be sure, but the point stands. When's the last time you saw a 10 year old as tall and mature as he was? Me? Never. And so I was off by three years. STILL not enough to necessitate going 20 YEARS into the future for a New Mutants film! Yeesh- how slow did you think these kids would age?! (By that logic, they would all be in their late 30's by that time, and thus no longer "The New Mutants".... They'd be the senior X-team in that case.) Granted, X-Factor is a bit older (mid-20's, IIRC), but still not THAT old. And X-23 was a member of both X-Factor and X-Force- which is a much "darker" team that does things the others won't, so that fits how she was shown in Logan. She could easily fit either team in a movie. Or even NM. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

04-23-2017, 02:45 PM	#299
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,284	Logan will be on Blu Ray May 23rd 2017 __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

03-12-2017, 07:32 PM	#282
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,041	What do you mean? X-23 as a kid can't carry a movie. She was secondary to Wolverine in this one. A teenage X-23 at the least would be a better idea.

03-12-2017, 08:49 PM	#288
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,041	Are you saying a Mexican woman couldn't carry a movie in the modern year?

03-12-2017, 09:32 PM	#293
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,041	How old is X-23's actress in real life? Isn't she only 10-11?