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Old 03-21-2019, 12:46 PM   #1
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Why was the 2007 movie CGI?

Perhaps this has been answered before, but I've been wondering why this movie is CGI? It's still the only non-live action TMNT movie to this date. What was the reason behind this decision? Was it originally the plan? Was an animation studio the only one showing interest in a TMNT movie in 2007? Or did they reach the best deal with them?

Or was it simply a matter of "hmm, an animated TMNT movie has never been done before, let's try and see if it works"?
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:49 PM   #2
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They probably didn’t want to create complex practical costume effects for the turtles, but didn’t want to spend enough to make CGI turtles that could pass in the real world as organic beings, so they met in the mdidle and made it all animated.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:54 PM   #3
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I'm guessing partially because CG animated movies were more cool and trendy at the time.

I'm glad they did though, because the movie is still very pretty to look at.
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:04 PM   #4
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I'm guessing partially because CG animated movies were more cool and trendy at the time.

I'm glad they did though, because the movie is still very pretty to look at.
Yeah probably. I've never been very in touch with cinema and such, so I wasn't sure. Makes sense, though.

Yes, it looks good. And the video game based on it was quite solid for what it was. It was kind of like a Prince of Persia clone, right?

You did feel like a Ninja Turtle jumping all over rooftops. in that game haha
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:03 PM   #5
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They probably didn’t want to create complex practical costume effects for the turtles, but didn’t want to spend enough to make CGI turtles that could pass in the real world as organic beings, so they met in the mdidle and made it all animated.
Right. Enough of a budget to make a cost-effective CGI movie outsourced to Hong Kong... not nearly enough of one to make it live-action with costumes and animatronics and all that.

Always seemed like an... interesting choice. I also don't think they had much of a marketing budget because very few people even knew there was a movie out.
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:13 PM   #6
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Right. Enough of a budget to make a cost-effective CGI movie outsourced to Hong Kong... not nearly enough of one to make it live-action with costumes and animatronics and all that.

Always seemed like an... interesting choice. I also don't think they had much of a marketing budget because very few people even knew there was a movie out.
I remember it barely being talked about. It's like, 1 week before it came out some peopel were like "oh a new turtles movie, cool"... then a week later no one cared anymore. It's like it came and went. Plus, the 2k3 toon was not as popular as the FW or the 2012 ones were, so no wonder its tie in movie was a mere blip in the radar in the grand scheme of things as well. Plus it came out in 2007 already when either the Ninja Tribunal or Fast Forward were already airing. By then, the show wasn't as hot anymore.

And ofc, a lot of people were like "WAIT, NO SHREDDER ,BEBOP, ROCKSTEADY AND KRANG?! **** IT"
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:21 PM   #7
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Somehow I saw it in theaters in 2007. I "liked" TMNT at the time, but I'm surprised my parents knew that there was a movie out.

I remember waiting for a sequel, too- but it never came.

Still, 2007 is a very underrated piece of TMNT history. I genuinely like it more than 2k12 in some aspects.

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Old 03-22-2019, 11:34 PM   #8
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Somehow I saw it in theaters in 2007. I "liked" TMNT at the time, but I'm genuinely surprised my parents knew that there was a movie out.

I remember waiting for a sequel, too- but it never came.

Still, 2007 is a very underrated piece of TMNT history. I genuinely like it more than 2k12 in some aspects.
Sometimes I feel like I am way too hard on it. It's less that it wasn't a decent, random TMNT movie... and more that it just wasn't anything near the movie it needed to be to kickstart anything meaningfully.
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:38 PM   #9
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To be fair, I have no idea what they were going for either, but it's nice that the folks behind it were clearly fans. You don't get that covered up canister obscuring either TCRI/TGRI from people with only casual TMNT knowledge.

The Raph/Leo fight scene stuck with me- and seemingly everyone else who watched the movie- the most.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:42 AM   #10
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To be fair, I have no idea what they were going for either, but it's nice that the folks behind it were clearly fans. You don't get that covered up canister obscuring either TCRI/TGRI from people with only casual TMNT knowledge.

The Raph/Leo fight scene stuck with me- and seemingly everyone else who watched the movie- the most.
Yeah I enjoy the movie solely bc of that fight. If the movie just had a better antagonist/villain it would have been leaps and bounds better.

Karia should have been the villian along with the foot clan or they could have done a city at war movie with different factions of the foot clan fighting and tearing up the city. The turtles come back together ect....

I know there were talks and even plans for a sequel movie along with a promotional poster released with Mikey by himself with shredder in the background, but it was scrapped in favor of a supposedly hardcore Mirage reboot and then the property got sold.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:54 AM   #11
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Yeah I enjoy the movie solely bc of that fight. If the movie just had a better antagonist/villain it would have been leaps and bounds better.

Karia should have been the villian along with the foot clan or they could have done a city at war movie with different factions of the foot clan fighting and tearing up the city. The turtles come back together ect....
Yeah, Karai in it seemed to exist to #1, get knocked down by April F***ing O'Neil, and #2, tell us that Shredder was coming back.

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True, but these things weren't connected. Imagi had their idea for a sequel that I think I read Peter was OK with (not entirely sure there)... then Imagi fell apart for unrelated reasons. Then years later Frank Fusco (yes, Fusco, not Fosco) wrote a draft of a live action reboot that Kevin Eastman told me was, "Like Batman Begins," "awesome," and "the best thing Turtles" that he's ever read or seen conceptualized. And yeah, that's about the time the sale happened... and everything got twisted.
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Yeah, Karai in it seemed to exist to #1, get knocked down by April F***ing O'Neil, and #2, tell us that Shredder was coming back.



True, but these things weren't connected. Imagi had their idea for a sequel that I think I read Peter was OK with (not entirely sure there)... then Imagi fell apart for unrelated reasons. Then years later Frank Fusco (yes, Fusco, not Fosco) wrote a draft of a live action reboot that Kevin Eastman told me was, "Like Batman Begins," "awesome," and "the best thing Turtles" that he's ever read or seen conceptualized. And yeah, that's about the time the sale happened... and everything got twisted.
Kevin Eastman or Peter Laird???? I thought only Laird was involved with TMNT at that point?
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Kevin Eastman or Peter Laird???? I thought only Laird was involved with TMNT at that point?
Kevin sold his half of rights to Peter in 2000. But yes, he was involved in the Fusco incarnation in the same way he's involved with the IDW TMNT comics.
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This is the first I’m hearing of the mirage-style movie planned before the sale. Anyone else have any more info on it?
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Imagi is an all CG studio.
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This is the first Iím hearing of the mirage-style movie planned before the sale. Anyone else have any more info on it?
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:45 AM   #17
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I remember seeing YouTube videos of people on the streets auditioning to become Foot Soldiers. It's a shame that it all fell apart.
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I remember seeing YouTube videos of people on the streets auditioning to become Foot Soldiers. It's a shame that it all fell apart.
Weird, I don't remember any of that.

A few years ago someone mentioned here that a FW animated movie was planned around the time the show was ending. I wonder how it would have turned out. An epic final battle between the Turtles and Shredder & Krang?
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Weird, I don't remember any of that.
Found it. It was during the 25th anniversary in 2009. Speaking of which, I don't remember the 30th anniversary having as big of a hype as the 25th one. Aside from the IDW comic, it just came and went. Hopefully, the 35th anniversary is different.

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Found it. It was during the 25th anniversary in 2009. Speaking of which, I don't remember the 30th anniversary having as big of a hype as the 25th one. Aside from the IDW comic, it just came and went. Hopefully, the 35th anniversary is different.
In retrospect, I feel like a lot of the 25th anniversary effort was put together to help make the TMNT "saleable." I wouldn't be surprised if there were Nickelodeon suits watching the general interest that the events they held garnered. Especially at the Turtles Forever screening that was at Comic-Con that year.

Thank you for the YouTube link to that audition video - I don't think I've seen that before. I always felt bad for those people because a lot of them traveled from far away for that (some from overseas), and the fact that they held it on an open street instead of a proper facility made it pretty obvious that it was a publicity stunt instead of a true tryout.
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