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Old 05-17-2018, 06:19 AM   #21
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Is anyone else interested in trying to make a timeline based on this series?
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:09 AM   #22
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Well, they obviously fought ninjas in that period; either Megavolt's as someone online suggested or just some generic thieves. At least they caught these guys easily. And enough time for Donatello to begin examining and experimenting on the mutagen they crawled through. Speaking of which, I thought he synthesised the last of that into a spray that temporarily turned Splinter back into Hamato Yoshi back in Season 2.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:04 PM   #23
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Funny enough, they only seem to face Shredder and co. up until season 3 when they finally meet the Rat King, Leatherhead and a bunch of mobsters... though Shredder was in the Maltese Hamster episode. It was in season 4 when they really started to meet more mad scientist and the like.
They still fight Shredder in Season 4 but he's not in every episode.
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:28 PM   #24
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They still fight Shredder in Season 4 but he's not in every episode.
I like season 4-5 being split up, with circa 50 % being classic TMNT against Shredder and Krang, the others take different turtles at solo adventures, often outside New York City.
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Old 05-24-2018, 03:13 PM   #25
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I like season 4-5 being split up, with circa 50 % being classic TMNT against Shredder and Krang, the others take different turtles at solo adventures, often outside New York City.
I think it happened for two reasons:

1) James Avery had less time to commit to the show due to Fresh Prince.

2) The writers were starting to run out of ideas creatively having had the standard villians in most Season 3 episodes.
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Old 05-24-2018, 03:35 PM   #26
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TMNT always had a problem when it came to finding villains that could "replace" Shredder on a long term or even for single episodes.

Bonus points to the FW series for making some non-Shredder and Krang episodes, but a lot of those mad scientists weren't particularly interesting and it's obvious they've only managed to be a threat to the Turtles due to their technology. It's a hard pill for me to swallow seeing a ****ing toy manufactor, for example, getting the upper hand against the Turtles. On a one on one fight against any of the Turtles he'd get his ass kicked in 5 seconds.

It's like the WWE champion facing a lower midcarder or a jobber. The guy will put up a decent fight in order to make it look like the WWE champion will lose the title, but then he eventually fights back with the five moves of doom and pins the other guy and remains champion just like every single person expected.

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I don't think that's what he meant. I've always interpreted the line "2 years and 15 days" to mean that's how much time went by in between Turtle Trek and A Turtle in Time, not how much time went by in between Turtle Trek and The Unknown Ninja.
It's made pretty clear they were referring to when they'd meet. The Turtles basically asked Carter "do we know you?" and Carter said "Not yet, but you will" and then Landor says "in exactly 2 years and 15 days".

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Old 05-24-2018, 05:19 PM   #27
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It's a hard pill for me to swallow seeing a ****ing toy manufactor, for example, getting the upper hand against the Turtles. On a one on one fight against any of the Turtles he'd get his ass kicked in 5 seconds.
I agree but then again they do use their weapons less as well. The TMNT are kind of dumbed down in Season 4-6.
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:22 AM   #28
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TMNT always had a problem when it came to finding villains that could "replace" Shredder on a long term or even for single episodes..
The best were those with Leatherhead and the Rat King. I also liked how the series built up its own organized crime syndicate, with Big Louie and how he was in gangster war against Beaver Cleaver and Wally Cleaver.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:45 AM   #29
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Season 3 expanded a bit which was nice. We had Rat King and Don Turtelli standing on their own in one episode each, then they teamed up, then Rat King teamed up with Leatherhead. The syndicated episodes were more like She-ra, series since they rarely deviated from the Horde at all even if they had one-off Horde villains once in awhile. I definitely understand why it was done this way since you didn't want to see the Turtles using their weapons on gangsters or even scientists. The Saturday episodes allowed them to expand their villain roster even if it was of scientists, toy makers and Turtle memorabilia collectors and the occasional gangsters. Those guys couldn't fight back like Shredder and Co. could so it would teach kids bad lessons. At least they finally got the formula right as the seasons went on.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:10 AM   #30
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The best were those with Leatherhead and the Rat King. I also liked how the series built up its own organized crime syndicate, with Big Louie and how he was in gangster war against Beaver Cleaver and Wally Cleaver.
Apparently Leatherhead only appeared in 4 episodes.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:53 AM   #31
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Apparently Leatherhead only appeared in 4 episodes.
And for some reason the original series mad him a bad guy. Even though he's always been a good guy in the comics.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:17 AM   #32
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And for some reason the original series mad him a bad guy. Even though he's always been a good guy in the comics.
Yeah. FW and 2k3 Leatherheads are both completely different from each other. They're barely the same character.

I liked FW Leatherhead, though. And his accent was pretty cool. "I GUARAN-TEE!"
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:50 PM   #33
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And for some reason the original series mad him a bad guy. Even though he's always been a good guy in the comics.
Really? I actually had no idea. No wonder in the 2003 cartoon series he's a good guy. Finally makes sense.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:12 PM   #34
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Florida

I like the concept of a Florida-based Leatherhead.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:34 PM   #35
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I like the concept of a Florida-based Leatherhead.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:42 PM   #36
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80s Leatherhead is my favourite too.

I like him as a villain more than an ally, and I don't like Leatherhead going into rage mode everytime and then saying sorry later on.
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The biggest villains were the censors. What they could do without being held back is my question.

Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.

Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:18 PM   #37
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80s Leatherhead is my favourite too.

I like him as a villain more than an ally, and I don't like Leatherhead going into rage mode everytime and then saying sorry later on.
80s Leatherhead was great.
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:39 AM   #38
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I also liked Archie Leatherhead (but not so much that origin). It was great to see him as part of the Mutanimals punching robots in Brazil in "United We Stand, Divided We Fall".
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