TMNT: Villain Micro-Series: Old Hob Preview

[TomWaltz]

As with our other micro-series, this directly affects City Fall. Good stuff -- enjoy!

http://bit.ly/17jTj26


Talk soon...

Tom W.

[corvus]

Looks like its gonna be great.

[Tazi]

Now I feel empathy toward Hob.

This issue will be great for sure, and I bet we will know more about who Hob's wanna take a revenge on, in Issue #25. (or #26?)

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Tazi

Now I feel empathy toward Hob.

This issue will be great for sure, and I bet we will know more about who Hob's wanna take a revenge on, in Issue #25. (or #26?)

Its #26. The boy's mother perhaps if not Baxter Stockman himself?

I am a cat owner and have a softspot for all cats so its a bit much for me to see the overacting mother and gruseome injury.

[ToTheNines]

This is gonna be badass. I love Dave Watcher!

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I am a cat owner and have a softspot for all cats so its a bit much for me to see the overacting mother and gruseome injury.

for some reason this comes to my mind (the scene with the kittens):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPkx8kDsYwo&feature=player_detailpage#t=12 2s

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Its #26.

Wait a sec... Since Hob is a cat, and he might very well eat rodents, maybe there's a chance for seeing Rat King related to him. Maybe, that's who he wants revenge on, because he will beat him in this issue? Would make sense to also add Splinter to the mix later, just as they'll do in #26...

Well, I think Rat King is unlikely yet, but still, it would make sense.


Edit: Also, sorry for double posting, wasn't intentional.

[Kendamu]

I took a quick peek at the first couple pages. I'm saving the rest for tomorrow when the issue comes out.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Tazi

Wait a sec... Since Hob is a cat, and he might very well eat rodents, maybe there's a chance for seeing Rat King related to him. Maybe, that's who he wants revenge on, because he will beat him in this issue? Would make sense to also add Splinter to the mix later, just as they'll do in #26...

Well, I think Rat King is unlikely yet, but still, it would make sense.


Edit: Also, sorry for double posting, wasn't intentional.

Was that really neccessary to have a bag of three kittens drowned to the bottom of a lake and show it in a cartoon? That would horrify me as a kid while the others are unrealistic. I'm sorry I looked at the link.

As for Rat King, is it mice and rats that cats chase as a natural predator? I thought it was just mice? It does seem like a lot is going on with Leo's secution to the darkside and battles with the Savante ninja, Hun and Bebop and Rocksteady joining Shredder's ranks while Old Hob and Slash work with the other three TMNT. early 2014 would be a great time for him! Its just so much going on right now with another new character and two being furthered it may make him a footnote. His own story would be better for Rat King.

[Kendamu]

Spoiler tags, guys.

[Cipher]

I feel like I've just been a negative nelly on these micros as of late, but:

Does Old Hob really need a sympathetic backstory? Does he even need a backstory at all?

I guess I'd just be enjoying these a lot more if they were just one-off character-building stories that featured these villains, a la the four Turtles' micros. Krang's was interesting, Baxter's was all right, but this just feels a little disingenuous.

Judgement reserved until I read the actual issue, of course. Hob is also a really fun character, so there's that.

[kwalsh007]

A W E S O M E ! ! I waited along time for this, cant wait to check it out! Old Hob is my new fave!

[Plasticplayhouse]

the empathy card is a powerful one to play. i just glanced at the art, not reading any. i like to get a glimpse and save the reading for release day

[corvus]

when is this out again?

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

It should be out... today.

I have a feeling this is going to be my favorite micro since the Fugitoid one. Maybe I'm biased, but the Krang and Baxter micros just felt rushed compared to what I've read of this one so far.

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I feel like I've just been a negative nelly on these micros as of late, but:

Does Old Hob really need a sympathetic backstory? Does he even need a backstory at all?

I guess I'd just be enjoying these a lot more if they were just one-off character-building stories that featured these villains, a la the four Turtles' micros. Krang's was interesting, Baxter's was all right, but this just feels a little disingenuous.

For me, I always liked complex villains more than simple, evil cartoony ones. Sure, a villain who dies after a few issue does not need a detailed personality, but if the character stays longer, it definitely helps. For example, this is my main problems with Ch'rell, at the end of the day he is basically just evil for the sake of being evil, and his motivation is just to **** the multiverse up, and even his own existence, because he got beaten by the Turtles. (<- who actually not beat him, since Shredder almost killed the Turtles in the Exodus storyarc, so Ch'rell actually won the last battle, if you don't count Turtles Forever.)

About Hob, and Slash... Slash was an anti-hero in Archie, there are some hints about that he will end up something like that in IDW too. Hob is agressive, and ugly but if I recall it, he was never really portrayed as an "evil being", only if eating animals makes you evil, but the Turtles also ate pizza which has meat on it so... Sure, he wants his revenge on Splinter, but Hob basically lost his eye thanks to him, so even his hatred is totally understandable. So he might be a foe to the turtles, but he is neutral in the big picture.

[Shedder]

Today!!!!!!!!

[corvus]

Fantastic issue. No big shockers but it explains quite a bit.

[Desslok]

Filled in a lot of holes concerning Hob, his origins and his current place in the story. I think Hob is a great character so this was a fun read.

Also, am I only the one who reads Old Hob with one of Mark Hamill's rough scratchy voices? It fits him perfectly.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I agree except to the extent that Hob has a major grudge against Splinter and the turtles... Splinter even says early on, "what was once simply a battle for survival has become very personal." Hob can't be faulted for needing to eat, but the point of mutation is to make animals humanoid and raise consciousness/awareness. To fault Splinter for trying to protect Raphael is irrational and petty. It just seems that Hob has to have someone to be angry towards, and now the enemy is humanity instead of four turtles and a rat. I may be giving the creative team too much credit here, but Hob seems to have been intended as a tribute to Scratch/HallowCat, Jagwar, AND Manx/Verminator X all at once in this series.