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Old 05-24-2018, 08:12 PM   #27
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The current administration is saying that anyone who doesn't stand for the song of our country shouldn't be in our country...that's dangerous.
Those aren't American values.
By the same logic, the pro-kneelers are openly and loudly telling anyone who thinks that people should have to abide by a corporate-set company policy and keep their politics to themselves while they're "on the clock", same as any other job, that they're a racist, bigoted monster.

Also dangerous, also not American Values.

Fact is, as a person you can have NO opinion about race, or racially-motivated shootings, or any of that at all, and still understand this simple principle:

"Freedom of Speech" is NOT protected on company time or company property.

Violation of ANY company policies for ANY reason are grounds for punishment/termination.

That's it.

Look at it this way; Sometimes, NJ "Summer" carries into October, like it did last year. I have, occasionally, received threats of termination for wearing shorts at work after September - despite the fact that it's a gym and most people in it are wearing shorts. Company Policy states that the company dress code must be adhered to, and that dress code says "No Shorts between September and May." I've been there almost a decade and I'm the best guy working there, and yet, I'm as accountable as anyone else. I can fight for my "right" to be comfortable, OR, I can suck it up, realize it's not the end of the world, and keep my job. AND, if I even TALK about politics with customers - we do, but only when it's quiet and the boss isn't around - I can be fired immediately for that, too. Meanwhile, a CUSTOMER can work out at my gym wearing a pro-Trump or Hillary shirt, and that's their business. I would be asked to change or else I'd be fired, because I'm on the clock and most people aren't being paid to promote their personal politics.

Once again, people get so caught up in "Feelings" and whatever, that they forget that feelings really don't factor into much when it comes to policy. Company's can NOT set policies based on, "Well that's mean/insensitive/etc.", they're running a business and especially the ones who have to answer to shareholders have to protect their bottom line, not the "feelings" of their employees... who most of the time are more than free to make any political expression they want ON THEIR OWN TIME.
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I'll be blunt; this is the ONLY country in the world where some half-illiterate steroid-case who only graduated high school because he could run fast and jump high - but couldn't read or do basic math - can go on to make around 500 TIMES the national household average playing a f*cking child's game. Same goes for the spoiled actors playing make-believe, who get $20 million a movie in between threatening to move to France every time someone they don't like wins an election. Only here; you ain't getting pampered like this anywhere else in the world. That's a fact.

So since we're taking such good care of these people, at the very least they should have to show a little basic respect to the things like the flag and the anthem, which symbolize the fact that in any other country in the world, they'd starve to death for having nothing of value to contribute to society.

I've long believed that if you hate it here so much, you shouldn't be allowed to make millions upon millions of dollars of American money, which you only are able to earn thanks to a system you constantly whine about, because that's disrespectful and exploitative. Again, behave that way in public anywhere else, in any other country, and see if it's tolerated, and for how long. They should be glad they're not being forced to stand for the anthem at gunpoint; you can still get shot for "taking a knee" in much of the world. Just sayin'.

It's stupid. Shut up and stand for the Anthem, take a Moment of Silence afterwards, everybody wins. "You can't force people to _________!" Yes, you can. If you're paying someone, yes, you CAN force them to act and dress and behave a certain way while they are on company time and property. OR, those people can try working at Wendy's and see how far it gets them there, and if they'll still be getting paid so much for nothing.

Orrrrrr... we could shut down the entire NFL. I vote for that, gladly. F*ck 'em.
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