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Old 02-23-2017, 11:35 AM   #21
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Honestly? I'd prefer they either print it unedited with commentary, not unlike what Warner Bros has done to address issues with their older works, than have it reprinted edited in some way.

If the option is edited or no reprint, I'll take the no reprint option.
Yeah, that's the better option.

Personaly, I would have liked it to be reprinted either way, as to me Al'Falqa was a noteworthy as Verminator X And Armaggon. And his story brought us soemthing different then just European/Arhturian, Spear of Desiny or Cup of Christ mythos stuff or Chi and Chakras from the Mystical Orient that gives you superpowers.

But, done is done.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:14 PM   #22
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Wow! lol

So what has happened is that I didn't want to get into it politcally about those issues being reprinted in the IDW trades... and someone backed up about saying what you think etc...

and this has turned into a political thread kinda. "kinda"

I mean my view on it is fine. If they don't want to print those controversial issues about religon then I'm okay with that. I'm personally not a fan of middle eastern culture or religons. Just not for me.

So I'm okay. I mean why would you want to re-print comics that has some references to a religon that basically okays terror on others that don't feel that same way you do?

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Old 02-23-2017, 12:24 PM   #23
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So what has happened is that I didn't want to get into it politcally about those issues being reprinted in the IDW trades... and someone backed up about saying what you think etc...

and this has turned into a political thread kinda. "kinda"
That's what I love about forums.

I'd much rather let the fires burn on message boards with people I only know through usernames instead of social media with people I know personally.

Seriously though, I thought most fans were well aware of the IDW reprint history, but this has revealed it wasn't as well known as I assumed.

I much prefer the strategy of what IDW did with their Tales of the TMNT Volume 2 reprint where they included a disclaimer in the inside cover noting that the comics reflect their time period and "do not reflect today's values or those of Nickelodeon or IDW Publishing."
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:26 PM   #24
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So I'm okay. I mean why would you want to re-print comics that has some references to a religon that basically okays terror on others that don't feel that same way you do?

3...2...1

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oh Yeah, I forgot you where a huge troll.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:28 PM   #25
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Guess we know why they're in isolation.
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Did someone call for the liberals to roll in?
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:37 PM   #28
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I'm not quite through with my daily routine of prayer to Sam Bee and John Oliver, but I think I can fit in a few comments on this thread before I have to officiate at a lesbian wedding for Muslim illegal immigrants...

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Dang it, I went and left my "Fanboy Tears" mug at home.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:59 PM   #30
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Honestly? I'd prefer they either print it unedited with commentary, not unlike what Warner Bros has done to address issues with their older works, than have it reprinted edited in some way.

If the option is edited or no reprint, I'll take the no reprint option.
Holy sh*t, we've reached a middle ground lol.

But seriously, that's a great idea. Always better to educate than to shelter.
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures Volume 14

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I know the IDW Archie collections have had weird covers due to the need of combining imagery from stories which part of the (arguably) weirdest TMNT incarnation, bit this takes the cake so far. What the hell am I looking at here?

Donnie tries to high five alien Steve Jobs, while Raph and Leo are threatening a dentist about to pull out one of a blindfolded Mikey's teeth. In the top corners the Turtles look like they're in a game show and A'Tuin.
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The Turtle toddlers are at top, it's a flashback issue showing the Turtles as kids and how they got their weapons.

Funnily enough the black scientist would probably have been Bishop now if his character was created back then.
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Funnily enough the black scientist would probably have been Bishop now if his character was created back then.
At first I thought it was Baxter.

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Seriously though, I thought most fans were well aware of the IDW reprint history, but this has revealed it wasn't as well known as I assumed.
I was wondering if you knew of a list of what has and hasn't been reprinted with the Mirage comics. I'd like to know in advance for when I start reading them properly from the beginning again.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:41 PM   #35
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I abhor censorship. But IDW is a privately owned company and can print or omit whatever they want, for whatever reason they see fit. Don't like it? Don't buy their stuff.
Viacom is publicly traded, though, for whatever it's worth.
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I much prefer the strategy of what IDW did with their Tales of the TMNT Volume 2 reprint where they included a disclaimer in the inside cover noting that the comics reflect their time period and "do not reflect today's values or those of Nickelodeon or IDW Publishing."
I dunno if that kind of disclaimer would work in this particular case though. The "times" haven't actually changed on this matter (images depicting Muhammed being considered blasphemous), all that's different is that the book was originally printed in a much smaller, pre-internet world, when it was "safer" to talk about such things without upsetting anyone.
Ironically, the internet itself is full of images of Muhammed.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:58 AM   #37
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I was able to pick up 3-14 really cheap at 1.50 each.

I was very lucky. The issues are hard to find. I'm not even going to worry about getting first prints. These issues are near mint, look like they've been stored away for 25+ years.

I might still get some of the trades. I've never read the Archie stuff... so I don't know.

Getting all the issues would be really fun. I'm guessing issues 50 on onwards are tougher to find?
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:06 AM   #38
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I dunno if that kind of disclaimer would work in this particular case though. The "times" haven't actually changed on this matter (images depicting Muhammed being considered blasphemous), all that's different is that the book was originally printed in a much smaller, pre-internet world, when it was "safer" to talk about such things without upsetting anyone.
Ironically, the internet itself is full of images of Muhammed.
That's not quite the spin I would put on that situation. I think it adds a level of intent that the creators just didn't have. They weren't doing it to be edgy, or because it was safer, it's more likely they were adding Muhammad to be inclusive all the while being oblivious to the fact that adding him in the first place was disrespectful

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No "spin" intended. The world *was* a smaller place back then, and such obliviousness would only be further proof of it.
I would however question the idea that they were oblivious to the situation. They obviously studied up for the story.
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Yeah, it's weird because on one hand I have to believe Murph had to know about Islam and their iconoclastic beliefs. But then he definitely doesn't have that Trey Parker & Matt Stone sense of humor where he'd just throw it in to troll his Muslim readers, who were mostly children.

I dunno, maybe Chris Allan did it?
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