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Old 12-11-2010, 11:12 AM   #1
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Your personal ultimate roster for a TMNT fighting game

If the developers of Smash Up knew what they were doing, they would have given the fans a game celebrating the 25th anniversary and incorporating all of the TMNT universes. My question is: If you could design your own TMNT roster, which characters (and versions) would you choose?

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20 characters. Specify which version of the character you would use as their "primary" form. The rest of the versions can be unlocked without requiring another character. For example, "OT Leonardo" would be your primary character, and 2k3, movie, Mirage, etc. would all be unlockable skins for that character.

You can choose how many of the 20 characters are unlockable and how many you start with.

My Roster (characters in red are unlockable)

2k3 Leonardo
OT Donatello
1990 movie Raph
Mirage Mike
Movie Shredder
2k3 Splinter
Movie Casey Jones
OT Bebop
OT Rocksteady
2k3 Karai
NT:TNM Venus
OT Rat King
OT Leatherhead
OT Slash
OT Baxter Stockman (Fly)
2k3 Bishop
Movie Tatsu
2k3 Hun
2k3 Usagi
OT Krang
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:21 AM   #2
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OT Leonardo
Mirage Raph
2K3 Don (Would definitely have to have a cyborg alt. costume from Vol. 3)
TMNT Mikey
OT April
Vol. 3 Casey Jones (American Flag Mask)
Mirage Shredder
OT Bebop
OT Rocksteady
OT Krang
Dark Horse Usagi Yojimbo
TMNT Splinter
Mirage Nobody
Mirage Savanti Romero
Ultimate Ninja
2K3 Karai
OT Foot Soldier
Tokka
Rahzar
Null (Demon Form)

I gotta mention The Mighty Mutanimals & Choate as they aren't featured (but they would've been with more characters!).
If this were a Smash Bros. Brawl type of game with 30-35 characters, they'd definitely make the cut.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:15 PM   #3
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I was thinking of it being a Smash Bros type of game just with fewer characters lol. I think if we extend it to 30 - 35 everybody would use the same ones.
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:45 PM   #4
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No specific "version" as default. It would be either some mixture of previous versions, or a completely new design altogether. Red are unlockable.

Leonardo
Michelangelo
Raphael
Donatello
Splinter
Casey
April
Leatherhead
Radical
Jagwar

Shredder
Krang
Karai
Foot Ninja
Bebop
Rocksteady
Hun
Bishop
Mozar
Complete Carnage
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:25 PM   #5
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I really like Powder's list! That would be epic!
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:28 PM   #6
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I really like Powder's list! That would be epic!
Ha, thanks! I tried to make it very well rounded while giving love to some of my favorites who happen to be under appreciated at the same time.
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:39 PM   #7
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I guess the biggest thing would be how hard would it be to do multiple "costumes" so you can have the Turtles and have various unlock able versions as well.
I mean we could have Mirage, OT, Movie, 2k3, Next Mutation and maybe others. Heck, I think it'd be funny if one of April's alternate skins was Venus, you know, so she's not a whole new character, and would share a move set with April
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:36 PM   #8
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Thought I'd give it a try. Roster consist of 35 playable characters and three generics for survival and last the time limit.

tried to include a little of all, but i think I fel a bit short on the diversity.

The characters would have different costume/skin as well as appropriate color schemes for team vs team. The costume swaps would have different effects on their attacks and visual effects might differ as well.

Start up Roster
Good Guys

Leonardo (Mirage color, B/w and Toon)
Michelangelo (Mirage color, B/w and Toon)
Donatello (Mirage color, B/w and Toon)
Raphael (Mirage color, B/w and Toon)
Casey Jones (Btts, Toon and toon color change with Vol3 mask)
April O'Neil (yellow and blue jumpuit. Similar to 2k3)
Leatherhead (Mirage and Toon)

Villains

Bebop ( Original design and Toon )
Rocksteady ( Original design and Toon )
Rat King ( Original design and Toon )
Human Baxter Stockman ( Mirage and Toon )
Karai ( Mirage and Lotus Toon costume )
Slash (Original and Turtles in Time)

Unlock-able Roster
Good Guys

Venus De Milo (Original and next Mutation)
Splinter (Toon, Mirage and Live Action Movie)
Hamato Yoshi (Original and 2K3)
Quarry (Original and 2K3)
Mondo Gecko (Original and Toon)
Wingnut and Screwloose (Original and Archie)
Metalhead ( Toon and original)
Fugitoid ( Mirage and Toy design)
Utrom with android body ( robot exposed and human-like costume)
Ninjara (original and Archie)

Villains

Tatsu (movie and original)
Shredder (Mirage, Mirage B/W, Toon and Super Shredder)
Oroku saki (Martial arts gear and Business suit)
Tokka (Movie and Original)
Razhar (Movie and Original)
Krang with android body
General Traag ( Toon and original)
Fly Baxter Stockman ( Toon and original)
Hun (Mirage and 2K3)
Savanti Romero (Mirage and Orignal)
Antrax ( Toon and original)
Chrome Dome ( Toon and original)

Survival mode - Time Limit
Foot Ninja (Mirage, Mirage B/W and Toon)
Utroms (Smash-up and Original)
Triceratons (Mirage and Toon)
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:27 AM   #9
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Man, it's sort of sad to imagine how awesome a fan service such a game would make... only to realize we'll never get this unless it's in the form of a fan-game. Maybe one day, somebody will pull off an awesome Smash-Up hack.
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I like how everyone throws in at least one semi-obscure character. That's actually a tradition in TMNT fighting games.
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:20 AM   #11
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My roster is pretty basic, nobody really obscure. It's because I haven't seen every episode of any series and have read few of the comics so I don't know any really obscure characters.
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My roster is pretty basic, nobody really obscure. It's because I haven't seen every episode of any series and have read few of the comics so I don't know any really obscure characters.
Venus kind of counts. There's lots of people who had no idea a fifth, female turtle existed.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:24 AM   #13
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I like how everyone throws in at least one semi-obscure character. That's actually a tradition in TMNT fighting games.
Let's see...

NES: Hothead
SNES: War, Wingnut(possibly the Archie incarnation), and Aska (original character)
Genny: Sisyphus (OC), Ray Fillet, April (as a fighter for the first time)
Mutant Melee: Sleeg, "Monster", Traximus (though most are probably acquainted with Triceratons in general)
Smash Up: Utrominator

Yep, it's a trend, indeed.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #14
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TMNT 1990/Mirage mash up Designs for the TMNT's "regular" skins as I think limiting the TMNT's look to one uinverse hurts more than helps *cough* smash up *cough*
Anyway
I'm thinking 20 to start and 33 with the unlockable characters
Each "base" character either has their Mirage design or has mixed look ie elements from each universe unless otherwise noted. * signify unlockable skins
The good
Raph (alternate Mirage and 1990 movie skin*)
Leo(alternate Mirage and TNM skin*)
Mikey (alternate Mirage and OT skin*)
Donnie (alternate Mirage and 2k3 skin*)
Splinter(alternate first appearance skin and purple OT kimono*)
Radical (alternate black costume*)
2k3 April ( alternate OT yellow jumpsuit and 07' movie costume*)
2k3 Casey Jones (alternate Mirage and 1990 movie costume*)
Fugitoid (alternate Volume four giant robot mode*)

The bad
Shredder (altenate 2k3 and OT skins*)
Karai (alternate 2k3 outfit and SNES Tournament Fighters costume*)
Tatsu (alternate Khan outfit*)
Foot Ninja (alternate 1990 Movie and OT costume*)
2k3 Hun (alternate Mutant form*)
2k3 season 1 Cyborg Robo Baxter (alternate Robot Body from BTTS*)
2k3 Bishop(alternate BTTS outfit*)
OT Krang ( alternate Super Krang getup*)
OT Bebop(alternate Private Porknose outfit*)
OT Rocksteady (alternate Pirate Outfit from Turtles in time*)
Savanti Romero (alternate 2k3 look*)

The Unlockable
(each character is unlocked when completed with a certain base character or combinations of base characters. They are seperated into 3 tiers, depending on how easy it is to unlock them)
tier 1
Nobody (alternate Cop outfit)-complete game with Casey Jones
Tokka -complete game with Bebop
Rahzar-complete game with Rocksteady
Armaggon-complete game with Krang
Complete Carnage--complete game with Radical
Rat King (alternate OT outfit) -complete game with Bishop
Baxter the Fly (alternate human form)-complete game with 2K3 Baxter
tier 2
2k3 Miyamoto Usagi (alternate OT outfit)-complete game with Splinter and Fugitoid
Shoate(alternate black and Red Kimono)-complete game with Hun and Karai
TNM Dragon Lord (alternate action figure outfit)-complete game with Savanti
and Foot ninja
tier 3
2k3 Hamato Yoshi (alternate Bruce Lee outfit)-complete game with All TMNT
Super Shredder (alternate Black outfit)-complete game with all members of the Foot clan, not including the OT characters
Manga Turtle Saint- complete game with all base characters

phew. That took a long time... longer than I thought it would
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Let's see...

NES: Hothead
SNES: War, Wingnut(possibly the Archie incarnation), and Aska (original character)
Genny: Sisyphus (OC), Ray Fillet, April (as a fighter for the first time)
Mutant Melee: Sleeg, "Monster", Traximus (though most are probably acquainted with Triceratons in general)
Smash Up: Utrominator

Yep, it's a trend, indeed.

To elaborate a bit (though you are definitely on the right track):

Hothead had his own figure, of course, but it was quite a bit different. Most people only knew him from his toy, and even then, he wasn't exactly a household name.

War definitely counts, as the Adventures comics were not exactly well-known at the time (almost nobody I knew as a kid had read them). Same with Armaggon, and perhaps technically, Adventures Wingnut, though I had never thought of him like that. Aska being exclusive to this game definitely makes her obscure as hell, even though she's fondly remembered by those who have played the game. Honestly, I'd put Karai in this category, because at the time, I didn't know who she was, none of my friends did, and hell, you can go back and read some old FAQs/fansites that also had no idea.

Ray Fillet wasn't really as much of a wtf character as most because he was a popular figure, but this one is essentially Man Ray so I'll give you that. Sisyphus, like Aska, is a random, out-there exclusive character. Blaze cosplay April is definitely weird as hell but since she's an essential character that everyone knows, it's not as much as the others. Again, I'd put Karai here for being relatively unknown for this time period.

Traximus does indeed possibly count as does Mozar, but they were both quite prominent in the series as well as had their own semi-popular action figures. Sleeg was such a random choice that I completely forgot who he was until I saw the episode he debuted in a second time. Monster takes the cake for being probably the most obscure character in a popular fighting game, ever. Gold Shredder might count since he never showed up with that armor in anything else.

Utroms themselves are basically unknown to anybody who didn't watch 2K3 or read the Mirage comics, but even most hardcore fans of the 4Kids cartoon didn't have any idea what an Utrominator was, since it only showed up in the background of exposition scenes in one (albeit popular) episode.
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Some really good responses guys! If a game like this were to be made, I would want a bigger roster than 20 characters; too many good ideas!
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Man, it's sort of sad to imagine how awesome a fan service such a game would make... only to realize we'll never get this unless it's in the form of a fan-game.
I actually have something in mind like this sort if I ever get a sequel done to my TMNT fangame (if I ever get the first one done, that is!). I have some blatant fan service in the first one, but it's mostly Mirage related. The second one, if it'll come about, will be more focused on multiple universes.

Of course, first comes Deliverance Re-Shelled
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Of course, first comes Deliverance Re-Shelled
Heh, EPIC win, dude!

Also, I completely forgot about Armaggon in SNES Tournament Fighters. He really would have been a surprise to most people. Also, the Genesis game was my first introduction to Karai. I was totally expecting Shredder as the final boss so a female Foot Clan leader was a big shock for me. Karai seems so familiar nowadays, it's hard to remember it wasn't always the case!
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:42 PM   #19
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Ok, let's see if I can narrow it down to 20. Character version is as either as designed by Ken Mitchroney or a solid anime version (like the promo art for Tournament Fighters SNES)

1-4 are obvious.
5 Ray Fillet
6 Jagwar
7 Dreadmon
8 Wingnut and Screwloose
9 Mondo Gecko
10 Leatherhead (with his Stump Intergalactic Wrestling suit as an alt)
11 Ninjara
12 Karai
13 Casey Jones (resembling himself in the first movie)
14 Miyamoto Usagi
15 Slash
16 Bellybomb
17 Krang-headed Shredder
18 Armaggon
19 Cryin' Houn'
20 Golani

Final boss: Maligna
Unlockable Uber-boss: Cudley the Cowlick

My preferences are... decidedly obvious.
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Have barely read any of the comics, but from television shows and movies I have seen of the ninja turtles, my list would be something like this.....

(the ones you start off with)

1. Leonardo (2K3 version)
2. Rapheal (movie version)
3. Donetello (original toon version)
4. Micheleangelo (Mirage. Not too familar with the mirage comics, but from what I can gather, Mikey seems best here)
5. Master Splinter (2K3)
6. April O'Neil (2007 film)
7. Casey Jones (Movie)

(the ones you'll unlock)

8. Shredder (Movie)
9. The Rat King (2K3)
10. Leatherhead (2K3)
11. Krang (Original Toon)
12. Bebop (Original Toon)
13. Rocksteady (Original Toon)
14. Foot Soldier (2K3)
15. Rock Soldier (Original Toon)
16. Purple Dragon Gang Member (Mirage. Again, don't know too much into it, but I think it would be fitting to have one of the first enemies that the ninja turtles kicked major shell on)
17. Karai (2K3)
18. Mona Lisa (Original toon)
19. Venus (the NEXT mutation)
20. Kirby (the 4th never-shot live-action film)
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