If Nickelodeon never bought TMNT

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You're out of your element Kendamu.

You might've missed it the first time, so I'll say it again:

I really have no opinion of the shows. I just wanted to use that GIF.

[ToTheNines]

Lol... my retort was, in turn, a quote from The Big Lebowski.

Tried to be funny. Deaf ears.

Spoiler:

[Powder]

I got it, & I don't even like that movie.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Not trying to go off topic. I see what you're saying but wasn't that the point? It's not that they messed up Spider-Man. They purposely wanted to do a big super hero alliance thing with the whole shared universe...Marvel's Spider-Man is coming so there's that.

If Disney did a TMNT cartoon I doubt it would have been like USM. It doesn't have enough characters to do that unless it crossed over everything and basically made "Turtles Forever: The series". They probably would have made a straightforward retelling again.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Uh, what? All we're saying is Marvel's current action/superhero cartoons have all been terrible. If those same people made a TMNT cartoon, it'd likely be just as bad. The current head of Marvel animation does a horrible job with these shows.

Originally Posted by Xav

No they're not. They are just not to your liking.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Objectively speaking... they're ****ing dogshit.

They are, they really are dogshit. Muted colors, cookie cutter art style, sub-par writing, reliance of after effects and copying the movies in too many aspects, regardless of wheter or not it makes sense for a cartoon. I'd rather watch Spider-Man Unlimited and MTV Spider-Man back to back four times than sit through all of Ultimate, at least they had some kind of integrity...

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Somebody please someday stop trying to reinvent the wheel and imagine what the Turtles' 20+ years would be like. (Preferably with a Mirage/2003 tone.)

It's probably because of the "Teenage" title it's so hard to get past that.

[IndigoErth]

Which is a shame. Esp since it's so common to just refer to them in short as the 'Ninja Turtles' anyhow. (Wish people hadn't flipped over 2014's title... Hope future Turtle makers forget about that.)

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Which is a shame. Esp since it's so common to just refer to them in short as the 'Ninja Turtles' anyhow. (Wish people hadn't flipped over 2014's title... Hope future Turtle makers forget about that.)

Next Mutation did an early attempt with just the Ninja Turtles title.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Which is a shame. Esp since it's so common to just refer to them in short as the 'Ninja Turtles' anyhow. (Wish people hadn't flipped over 2014's title... Hope future Turtle makers forget about that.)

Why? Now they've got the title still in the bank, to be used for something else. Something else that's not ghastly.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Wish people hadn't flipped over 2014's title...

Probably because Michael Bay said it was because they would be extraterrestrials...

[CyberCubed]

It's kind of ironic IDW TMNT is going to wind up being the longest lasting TMNT incarnation. Unless you count Mirage's continual run from 1984-2010, but they had huge breaks inbetween.

[ToTheNines]

Ironic how?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's kind of ironic IDW TMNT is going to wind up being the longest lasting TMNT incarnation.

Archie run for longer time than IDW (August 1988-March 1996)

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's kind of ironic IDW TMNT is going to wind up being the longest lasting TMNT incarnation. Unless you count Mirage's continual run from 1984-2010, but they had huge breaks inbetween.

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Archie run for longer time than IDW (August 1988-March 1996)

From how previous discussions/arguments have gone in the past I've deduced CyberCubed doesn't have much respect for the Archie series, hence he never really gives it much recognition.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jephael

From how previous discussions/arguments have gone in the past I've deduced CyberCubed doesn't have much respect for the Archie series, hence he never really gives it much recognition.

WTF? I said IDW is going to "wind up having the longest run" of a TMNT series, I didn't say it already did. Do you not understand future tense?

Of course right now Archie went on longer, but IDW TMNT is looking to have a 10+ year run.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

WTF? I said IDW is going to "wind up having the longest run" of a TMNT series, I didn't say it already did. Do you not understand future tense?

Of course right now Archie went on longer, but IDW TMNT is looking to have a 10+ year run.

That's all fine and good, but how come you glossed over Archie in your initial statement? I respect that Mirage is the source of all things Ninja Turtles and they deserve to be recognized for that, but at the same time you can't ignore how successful Archie Comics was with them as well.

[CyberCubed]

LOL, what? I like the Archie run a lot and read through it several times. I don't know how you come to that conclusion.

I only brought up Mirage because it lasted 25 years, and said IDW would likely be the longest lasting otherwise. Just because I didn't name-drop Archie doesn't mean I ignore it. I literally own every single Archie issue in my comic cabinets right now.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I like the Archie run a lot and read through it several times. I don't know how you come to that conclusion.

Just because I didn't name-drop Archie doesn't mean I ignore it.

Well, maybe I'm too biased about the Archie comics. They meant a lot to me as a kid and sometimes certain comments people make about them tend to upset me. To be honest, I kinda wish Warner Bros. had bought the rights to TMNT as they could've easily adapted most of those stories into an animated series the same way 4Kids adapted Mirage. I would still love to see what Null, Kid Terra and the Malignoids would sound like.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Why? Now they've got the title still in the bank, to be used for something else. Something else that's not ghastly.

? You mean like, in essence, the PD film didn't get its cooties on it so it's still safe to use? lol

Really I meant in terms of fan reaction hopefully not scaring someone else away from ever trying to "alter" the title.

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Probably because Michael Bay said it was because they would be extraterrestrials...

True.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Well, maybe I'm too biased about the Archie comics. They meant a lot to me as a kid and sometimes certain comments people make about them tend to upset me. To be honest, I kinda wish Warner Bros. had bought the rights to TMNT as they could've easily adapted most of those stories into an animated series the same way 4Kids adapted Mirage. I would still love to see what Null, Kid Terra and the Malignoids would sound like.

That's the thing for an upcoming series somewhere in the 2020's.

If you also like Archie, you should listen to the Turtlesoup podcast.

http://turtlesoupshow.com/

It's about two persons who review most TMNT cartoons and comics, and I mainly listen to it becasue of their Archie reviews. They like it, and it's great listening to people being positive with something (instead of all bashings for the sake of bashing..).

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

? You mean like, in essence, the PD film didn't get its cooties on it so it's still safe to use? lol

Really I meant in terms of fan reaction hopefully not scaring someone else away from ever trying to "alter" the title.

Sort of like how Marvel changes the "The Amazing Spider-Man" title to Spider-Man in other media.