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Old 06-10-2018, 09:30 AM   #1
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Did the 2012 series live up to the hype/hatred?

Whenever the show was originally announced around 2009, everyone was sceptical about how good/terrible it would be. Now, a few years on, I was just wondering if the show lived up to your expectations of how good/bad it would be
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Old 06-10-2018, 09:38 AM   #2
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Considering back in 2009 people had no idea what the show would be, and then the CG or initial designs had mixed views, I'd say it lived up to the hype and surpassed it. Now obviously not every ep was good and they went too far with horror episodes, but overall it was a good series.
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Old 06-10-2018, 09:56 AM   #3
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I don't know what the views were when this show was announced but since discovering it I've noticed plenty of views on both sides.

It's what brought me in to the franchise and will very likely remain my favourite version of the shows but it would be easier to like something coming in as new to it, there's not the expectations from prior knowledge/experience there. (course I was familiar with TMNT but hadn't gotten into it)

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Old 06-10-2018, 10:00 AM   #4
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It didn't live up to my expectations at all, it's a good series with plenty of awesome moments, cool characters and interpretations but it's nowhere near what was promised or was hyped by others to be.

Before release they sweet talked us and told us how it would be Mirage inspired with OT mixed in. To me it seemed like the perfect series I had waited all my life for. The fan preview where a few selected members go to to enjoy a sneak peak only confirmed all of this was true. The designs were solid and all the mainstream geek culture blogs shilled for the show for the first two seasons and how it was the greatest interpretation of the turtles. They were not a lone as plenty of youtubers joined in with the same response.

I saw instead a boring show that didn't have the right interactions, some horrible original characters, too much mutation, too many horror episodes, bringing back characters in name only as they were totally different that you questioned why even bother, lack of motivation for many characters, out of character moments for many, bad decisions in general. I wanted to love the show but at the end it was just another interpretation instead of me actually loving this new take on them.

It's not a bad show, I like it, but the ranking would still go like this easily: 2k3>OT>2012
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When it was good, on top of its game, it exceeded the hype. No question.
But even when it was mediocre, it never deserved the hate it got.

It was a cute show that had so much unrealized potential.
Oh well, that's what fic is for.
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:39 AM   #6
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I don't think this show got too much hate, it was praised by a large majority of fans and casual fans joined in as well. This praise kinda died down around season 4 I think but I never saw anything too negative, 2k3 got far more hate by OT fans when it started and later during FF by most people but overall I think 2012 didn't have it bad at all when it came to reactions. Hell, it's the reason Rise is going to have a problem since so many people view the 2012 favorably they won't even give a chance to Rise for trying something different, they already have the grudge that the "great" show was cancelled because of Rise.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:25 PM   #7
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2k3 got far more hate by OT fans when it started
Back in February 2003, there were mostly just TMNT fans (many of them not even aware of Mirage). The divide into various fangroups came later, as the 4 Kids series progressed.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:04 PM   #8
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It was very good when it was good, however it didn't do enough to forge it's own path. It started off original, and some of the OT homages were fine, but they soon grew kind of excessive and eventually segued into full blown visits to the OT dimension, and the addition of Bebop and Rocksteady that quickly overshadowed the original mutant pair that debuted.

So in a way it didn't live up to expectations, because it stopped being what was advertised and started trying to be the OT too much, only 'returning to form' of it's old originality after too much time had passed.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:12 PM   #9
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My expectations were low when I first watched it, so I was surprised at how "good" it was.

But when I re-watched it a few times, it's not as good as I remember. It's decent, but the overall quality is meh. But it does have it's moments.
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:05 PM   #10
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I can't speak for anyone else, I don't remember what other people thought. What I can say is that I felt season 1 was promising, a promise the other seasons didn't live up to in my opinion.

At the time season 1 was airing, I thought it was going to continue focusing on the story like with the 2003 show and that this time there could be less focus on merchandising, given that a more respected studio was making it. This didn't really pan out. What we got was kind of cheap looking CGI that didn't improve, too many characters clearly created to sell toys, too many random plots that didn't go anywhere, increasingly dumb humor and attempts at drama that were just duds. For example, Splinter's final death might have worked better If:
  1. He didn't "die" multiple times before (in pretty much the same way).
  2. If the show didn't seem like a comedy as often as it did, including the episodes centered around it.
  3. He didn't come back, almost right away, as a semi-coporeal ghost.

It's not a bad show, even at it's worst you can still watch it (even if it makes you scratch your head). It's just that it seems like it could have been way better, given that it's the studio that produced the Avatar shows, but the one made the most infamous anime licensee of all time still made the better adaptation. And that's sad.
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:19 PM   #11
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I can't speak for anyone else, I don't remember what other people thought. What I can say is that I felt season 1 was promising, a promise the other seasons didn't live up to in my opinion.

At the time season 1 was airing, I thought it was going to continue focusing on the story like with the 2003 show and that this time there could be less focus on merchandising, given that a more respected studio was making it. This didn't really pan out. What we got was kind of cheap looking CGI that didn't improve, too many characters clearly created to sell toys, too many random plots that didn't go anywhere, increasingly dumb humor and attempts at drama that were just duds. For example, Splinter's final death might have worked better If:
  1. He didn't "die" multiple times before (in pretty much the same way).
  2. If the show didn't seem like a comedy as often as it did, including the episodes centered around it.
  3. He didn't come back, almost right away, as a semi-coporeal ghost.

It's not a bad show, even at it's worst you can still watch it (even if it makes you scratch your head). It's just that it seems like it could have been way better, given that it's the studio that produced the Avatar shows, but the one made the most infamous anime licensee of all time still made the better adaptation. And that's sad.
This man. So much this.

I felt that season one was the best. After that, just ... nah.

It didn't live up to my expectations.
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:41 PM   #12
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First couple of seasons were pretty solid for what they were. I suspect as ratings began to slide, Ciro was allowed to steer the ship creatively less and less.
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Old 06-20-2018, 09:39 AM   #13
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Meh, it was what it was. It had moments that I found it very entertaining, mostly the second half of season four through the end of the series. And there were times that I found it absolutely unbearable, mainly the Northampton arc and the outer space arc.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:13 PM   #14
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I'm still in the midst of watching the show so...update!
At this point I think season 3 is my weakest season. This is going to sound idiotic but it started going down hill when I noticed they replaced Leonardo's voice actor. I'm weird like that. I hate that Leo is trying to sound like kid batman now. So safe to say I'm not the biggest fan of Seth Green's depiction of Leo. As far as the farm episodes go they were hit or miss. I liked some but I think a couple of them should have been sacrificed to focus more on the team preparing to return to the city, instead of that all happening in one episode.

I have the least amount of investment in what is going on since the Kraang was defeated. I thought I'd care more about the Shredder but honestly I realize the Kraang posed a much more interesting threat. The writers try their best to make Shredder seem threatening but he just isn't. Constantly resorting to 87 Shredder tactics to get the job done. I.E. relying wholly on bumbling idiot minions who constantly fail him. At least when the Kraang did something, succeed or fail, they did it themselves. Karai is reduced to a mere damsel who is only dangerous some of the time but not really, and I have no idea why one off mutants are still showing up. (Like that disgusting garbage mutant. Very uninteresting and pointless. Mondo Gecko is okay though.). Hopefully season 4 and 5 will be better. I really enjoyed seasons 1 and 2.

On a side note: Fourfold Trap is one of this season's best episodes. (Seeing Splinter walking on a hamster wheel is fun. I guess this is a method of stress relief.)
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:29 PM   #15
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I actually prefer Green, not greatly though, for me Biggs suited young starting out Leo and Greens deeper voice kinda went later on with Leo's character having grown.
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I suppose but to me, my problem isn't all in the voice change but also his character/personality change. Which sucks because I know this has to happen. Every. Single. Time. Leo is the one who basically has to be angsty, bland, and uninteresting because the weight of leadership changes him. At the start of it this Leo was probably my favorite depiction of all the non comic book Leos. It is annoying how many people take "grown up" to mean "harsh and boring".
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I suppose but to me, my problem isn't all in the voice change but also his character/personality change. Which sucks because I know this has to happen. Every. Single. Time. Leo is the one who basically has to be angsty, bland, and uninteresting because the weight of leadership changes him. At the start of it this Leo was probably my favorite depiction of all the non comic book Leos. It is annoying how many people take "grown up" to mean "harsh and boring".
Oh, okay, Leo's over all character. I don't know, he did grow and gain more responsibility by the end but I don't think he looses his geeky side over all.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:47 AM   #18
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Wasn't the Nickelodeon series merchandising big already some months before the series began?
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Considering the type of show tmnt is and also considering Rise already has toys in production (though i'm not sure if they are already on shelves), then yeah without a doubt.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:46 PM   #20
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Think it's a good show
When I first started I didn't like it but it's very witty at times and the more you watch it the more it appeals
Still.. needs to be more mirage based and true to the comics but then it would just appeal to us old fans
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