Next X-Men Movie Potentially Called "X-Men: Supernova"

[TheSkeletonMan939]

There is one thing I'll give JLaw credit for: she at least tried to make Days of Future Past more logical. When they were filming the White House lawn scene where she chooses to shoot or spare Trask, Lawrence admitted to the writers that, going off the current script, there was no incentive not to shoot him. So the crew had to get together and re-think the Mystique/Xavier dynamic and rewrite scenes to make her decision to drop the gun more natural.

Unfortunately this just makes the patchwork quality of the film more understandable, and Mystique still has no good reason to drop the gun, but hey, at least she tried.

[Autbot_Benz]

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/09/...-dark-phoenix/

Nicholas Hoult is back as The Incredible Hulk I mean Beast. He only came back because they said his character would go in a new direction. Seriously enough if him being human than only turning into beast when angry.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/09/...-dark-phoenix/

Nicholas Hoult is back as The Incredible Hulk I mean Beast. He only came back because they said his character would go in a new direction. Seriously enough if him being human than only turning into beast when angry.

It remains to me truly shocking -- even for Singer -- that they could get a character like Beast so fundamentally wrong. His whole thing is brilliant guy cursed with being the Beast and unable to live a normal life.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It remains to me truly shocking -- even for Singer -- that they could get a character like Beast so fundamentally wrong. His whole thing is brilliant guy cursed with being the Beast and unable to live a normal life.

THANK YOU. I totally agree. They got Beast right in X-3 though

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

THANK YOU. I totally agree. They got Beast right in X-3 though

And First Class.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

And First Class.

Yeah. Which is why it's particularly troubling that one of the first things Singer does with his foot back in the door with DofP is go in and screw up Beast. Beast was fine. First Class set him up perfect, and nobody was asking for a second Jennifer Lawrence that can phase in and out of costume.

[Andrew NDB]

Wow... it's really going to be split into 2 movies?

https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/x-men...e-2-part-movie

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Wow... it's really going to be split into 2 movies?

https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/x-men...e-2-part-movie

That's definitely not going to help.

[AquaParade]

I absolutely adore Raimi's Spider-Man 2. Love it.
But after watching Homecoming a few more times, I've really appreciated the missing elements that Marvel Studio's helped bring to the silver-screen rendition of Spider-Man:

- It pops with the vibrancy and color of the comics

- Nails the dichotomy between Peter with and without the mask

- and most crucially, by bringing Spider-Man into the Marvel Universe, it highlights just how much of an underdog/outcast Spider-Man is - he isn't the one extraordinary thing in an ordinary world anymore, which brings a humbleness to the character - fantastic.

Letting all that sink in last night, while watching the movie, I realized just how badly the X-Men films need that shot of adrenaline. The X-Men needs a "Spider-Man Homecoming" badly. That's not to say I want the film rights to revert back to Marvel. What I want is for the Singer continuity to be scrapped so the creative team can freshen up and get a new perspective on what makes the X-Men special.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

That's definitely not going to help.

Why not?

Take Part 1 to focus on Jean Grey and her relationships while introducing and building up the lore of The Phoenix(while dealing with a different baddie). Have the first movie end with the gut punch of her being taken over by it (or, if they want to mirror X2, have her sacrifice herself) and have Part 2 be the Wrath of Phoenix.

Not how I would have gone about it, but not an awful approach either.

The only x-factor *rimshot* in all of this is whether Simon Winberg knows how to direct or not.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Why not?

Take Part 1 to focus on Jean Grey and her relationships while introducing and building up the lore of The Phoenix(while dealing with a different baddie). Have the first movie end with the gut punch of her being taken over by it (or, if they want to mirror X2, have her sacrifice herself) and have Part 2 be the Wrath of Phoenix.

Not how I would have gone about it, but not an awful approach either.

The only x-factor *rimshot* in all of this is whether Simon Winberg knows how to direct or not.

Why not? Because I think you as a studio or film series have to EARN splitting a movie into two parts. Harry Potter Book 7 earned it, even though the execution of the two final films was somewhat lacking.

The MCU has most definitely earned it with their strategic planning and business model.

Beyond that? I can't think of anyone who has earned that level of trust and storytelling. Maybe Fox's X-Men can pull it off... And maybe Peter Laird will someday finish Mirage Volume 4.

[Krutch]

Ehhh.... I don't know.

I mean, Twilight's last movie was split in two after exclusively bad reviews of every film in that franchise. And if your argument comes from "Well, those movies made a lot of money"...again, compare that to the X-Men films. It's a franchise thats been going on since 2000. Sure, its had ups and downs(as any franchise does with that kind of longevity), but c'mon... That's almost 18 years of financially profitable movies. I'd say that's more than "earned" it's right to come out with a two part story.

What your saying applies more to the Power Rangers movie coming out the gate saying they have 7 sequels planned out as opposed to X-Men, who have proved even their worst movies can still turn a profit.

[Cure]

I'm with Krutch, here. Also super excited for this if it's true.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Ehhh.... I don't know.

I mean, Twilight's last movie was split in two after exclusively bad reviews of every film in that franchise. And if your argument comes from "Well, those movies made a lot of money"...again, compare that to the X-Men films. It's a franchise thats been going on since 2000. Sure, its had ups and downs(as any franchise does with that kind of longevity), but c'mon... That's almost 18 years of financially profitable movies. I'd say that's more than "earned" it's right to come out with a two part story.

What your saying applies more to the Power Rangers movie coming out the gate saying they have 7 sequels planned out as opposed to X-Men, who have proved even their worst movies can still turn a profit.

You make a good point with Twilight.

And I'll give you that: X-Men has indeed financially earned the right to split a story into two movies. I might not like the X-Men movies at the moment, but they're still solidly in the black as a franchise.

I'm still cynical about it, though.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

You make a good point with Twilight.

And I'll give you that: X-Men has indeed financially earned the right to split a story into two movies. I might not like the X-Men movies at the moment, but they're still solidly in the black as a franchise.

I'm still cynical about it, though.

Haha oh yeah, being cynical is completely fair with a director attached with zero experience as well as being a story teller with a.. let's say, less-than-perfect track record

I'm still in the wait-and-see camp, myself.

[ToTheNines]

Spider-Man 2 sucks.

[Andrew NDB]

Another FAKE X-Men movie with not even a Jackman cameo for sure this time? Split into two movies? With no "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF X-MEN, X2, AND DAYS OF FUTURE PAST" to slam into trailers? After "Apocalypse" was both a financial and critical failure?

Gonna be like that last Divergent movie, or whatever. Where they forcibly split the last book into two movies... the first one failed, so the second movie never happened and now those fans don't get any kind of ending at all.

Best thing they can do is do some nonsense with FAKE Phoenix and transport them all to 2017, to meet up with what's currently going on with Deadpool and X-Force and all of that and sort of marry it into a unified thing. But they won't.

[Krutch]

For someone whose admittedly unfamiliar with the comics and has no strong nostalgic value attached to the property you're bizarrely passionate about your hatred of the X-Men movies, Andrew. It's amusing, but seriously, why is that?

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

After "Apocalypse" was both a financial and critical failure?

Incorrect.

Production Budget: $178 million (22 million less than DOFP)
Worldwide Box Office: $543,934,787

Not a financial failure, as much as you want it to be. Domestically? Sure. But don't kid yourself.

Gonna be like that last Divergent movie, or whatever. Where they forcibly split the last book into two movies... the first one failed, so the second movie never happened and now those fans don't get any kind of ending at all.

Because if the last 17 years of X-Men movies have proved anything, it's when they release a critically panned movie with less than ideal net profit, they SLAM THE BREAKS AND BAIL OUT!!!!

Best thing they can do is do some nonsense with FAKE Phoenix and transport them all to 2017, to meet up with what's currently going on with Deadpool and X-Force and all of that and sort of marry it into a unified thing. But they won't.

Don't you mean to meet up with the FAKE Deadpool and FAKE X-Force?

[TurtleTitan97]

The Skrulls might be appearing according to this rumor: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men...hoenix-a154601

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

The Skrulls might be appearing according to this rumor: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men...hoenix-a154601

Do we have another Quicksilver situation on our hands here?