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Old 10-02-2018, 04:22 PM   #221
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They're tripling down on this, I got called alt-right racist/sexist yesterday because on a thread I questioned how people still go to these lengths to say the movie was good. I was also told I lived in an echo chamber and that the movie is great because it was a critical and commercial success.
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:24 PM   #222
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We're blaming Last Jedi backlash on the Russians now. Because why not?

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Old 10-02-2018, 05:20 PM   #223
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echo chamber is my favorite oft repeated insult. the people who say it are just as bad as the people who claim to be in said chamber.

I'm betting Kennedy will be gone within those three years.

After episode 9 is released, she'll decide to 'retire' due to being tired of negative publicity and fail upward with an 'honorary oscar'.

She hasn't been seen or heard from since April. if that doesn't say Iger is keeping her tight on a leash, nothing will.
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:12 PM   #224
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After I've called Rey bland and sterile Mary Sue, some rabid idiot told me that her being a main character in the movie "hurts my masculinity" and this is why I dislike her.

Rabid fans are bad, but rabid fans who "back up" their insanity with ideology is even worse. It's like a pure concentration of all putrid and vile **** of the crazy fanboy + self-entitlement and EGO of the zealot believing he is on the right side of history. Sorry, "her-story".
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:24 PM   #225
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After I've called Rey bland and sterile Mary Sue
Just like Luke
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:31 PM   #226
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You would think a modern character would be written better than a 70’s character, you know
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:42 PM   #227
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After I've called Rey bland and sterile Mary Sue, some rabid idiot told me that her being a main character in the movie "hurts my masculinity" and this is why I dislike her.

Rabid fans are bad, but rabid fans who "back up" their insanity with ideology is even worse. It's like a pure concentration of all putrid and vile **** of the crazy fanboy + self-entitlement and EGO of the zealot believing he is on the right side of history. Sorry, "her-story".
I was all about Rey after the first flick. I saw a ton of potential, and she's a good actress.

Then it's all "Nah, she's just Way More Awesome Than Everyone, Ever, Just Because We Say So". I called BS and walked away.

People declare Luke a... "whatever" in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Such as, "He made a lot of mistakes and wasn't good at listening to anyone." He had to earn his status, to at least SOME degree, even if some of it was offscreen in-between films. He struggled a lot. And whatever "magical" talents he had could at least be attributable to bloodline. Him getting the ever-loving piss kicked out of him by Vader at the end of "Empire" kind of shatters those "But Luke was OP toooooo!" arguments.

Luke was good, and getting better. But he was NOT "Captain Way More Bad-Ass And Awesome Than Darth Vader and The Emperor and Starman and Captain Crunch COMBINED", the way he's accused by some of being, or the way Rey actually IS.

Rey needs to be Someone Important's Kid or the story is broken. It's really that simple. No character in the history of the Star Wars films ever came out of the box a 100% Certified Bad-Asss. That's because it's lousy f*cking writing. There needs to be a How and Why.
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:40 PM   #228
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Nope.
He was not sterile and actually had emotions, with each next part becoming more and more interesting.

I understand why they made Rey the way they did though: they wanted female lead to pander to lefties and avoid their screeching about "wrong portrayal of female character", so they chose to make character with no emotions and no flaws, which had rendered her boring and sterile.

TL;DR lefties shot themselves in the foot.
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:51 PM   #229
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Please. Rey would have sent back all the bolts from that force training remote AND Desotryed it in the process. It took Luke 3 years to even start to learn how to move objects with his mind, ala light saber.

Rey did it in barely 24 hours. Luke is no mary sue.
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:57 PM   #230
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A guy makes ONE lucky shot in the Death Star trenches, despite being mediocre-to-lousy at everything he does for the previous two hours, and suddenly he's a Mary Sue.

Like you said, that training orb or whatever was sure kicking his ass pretty good for a while, there.

Luke was quite far from perfect, all the way through. Didn't do everything right. Hard to like sometimes. His whole arc is a struggle for balance; not just with The Force, but within himself.

We can't say things that aren't true about one character, just because we want to like a new character more. Ain't right, ain't fair.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:43 PM   #231
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I'm shocked they fired their poster boy, Chuck Wendig. I guess you can write too much hateful stuff on twitter and have it come back to bite you.
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:35 AM   #232
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For those interested, here's Disney's financial report for 2018, there's a few things about Star Wars in it

https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com...ual-Report.pdf
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:05 PM   #233
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bob iger deletes twitter account, star wars not doing so well.. hmm.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:52 AM   #234
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She is a cancer to the franchise and Lucasfilm.
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