07-31-2017, 06:32 PM | #901 |
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I predict I'm going to like this show for what it is.
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07-31-2017, 06:45 PM | #902 |
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07-31-2017, 06:59 PM | #903 |
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I think we're spiralling toward another "hibernation period" for the TMNT anyway. The BayTurtles movies were cancelled and now they're going for a big animation shake-up to try to defibrillate cratering toy/merch sales. We've seen this move twice before and it didn't work either time. This show will be a lot cheaper to produce, but... any time they add gimmicks beyond the core concept it's bound for failure, IMO.
If this is all true, I find it funny that they're still clinging to elements of the garbage BayTurtles concepts/designs. That's corporate thinking, isn't it? Acquire something popular and beloved, arbitrarily change it just to "put your mark on it", then when it gets a bad reaction absolutely refuse to listen to the customers who reject it because obviously you know better. If Nick is struggling with how to handle the property, it's for the best if it takes a time-out. I hope the IDW comic continues, and it's doing well enough that I feel it will. I'm happy with that.
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07-31-2017, 07:07 PM | #905 |
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At the very least, big-time TV shows might take a little break. Maybe we'll get a movie between big shows (like the 2007 movie which I daren't touch), but other than that, there just needs to be a brand new team with different writers and designers who will at least care a little bit.
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07-31-2017, 07:22 PM | #907 | ||
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And maybe that's the natural result of a property like TMNT, that's gone from parody to grim-and-gritty to goofy-kids'-stuff to attempts to balance them all a few times over. Is a cohesive vision even possible? Especially in this low-attention-span, over-saturated media market where you can't just let things develop naturally.
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There's not supposed to be one cohesive vision. Everytime a new series starts the direction of it is entirely based on whoever the director/writers are. If the 4kids series didn't have Lloyd Goldfine and PL it would have turned out completely different too. |
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Of the current runs, the IDW comic and the Nick show feel/felt more creative-driven. I mean, obviously the cartoon is very marketing-driven at the same time, but IMO, Ciro Nieli came at it from a sincere place and understands and cares about the property. The IDW comic is absolutely a love letter to the TMNT as a whole and knows how it "works" very well. But Michael Bay never did, and his cynical approach stunk up the place. The creators of the new show might or might not, but based on the information leaked so far, some doubts are understandable. Again, I hope I'm wrong to worry. I really do. But that's the concern with corporate vs. creative ownership -- ultimately the people who might care and understand the characters and the stories aren't in any real control. There are no individuals to have trust in, long-term.
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07-31-2017, 08:19 PM | #910 |
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As many flaws as it has, I agree that Nick is the most "sincere" incarnation. The people behind it really are TMNT fans, and you can tell- because a lot of creative descisions for that show seemed like they were made by a bunch of enthusiastic fanboys without thinking too deeply about the execution or "should we really do this?".
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07-31-2017, 08:35 PM | #911 | |
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But yeah. They probably won't be doing back-to-back Turtles fighting Shredder and a bunch of mutants shows. This is probably the experimental, cheap "cooling off" period before they try something like the existing Nick toon again.
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07-31-2017, 08:48 PM | #912 |
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What if the new series shows the Turtles what they are doing, when not fighting the foot clan or other mutants, we could see them on there day to day lives.
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Pretty good odds it will be something like that.
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07-31-2017, 08:53 PM | #915 |
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07-31-2017, 09:01 PM | #916 |
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I don't know about official connections, but I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about, so far as he's at liberty to share.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58094
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07-31-2017, 09:43 PM | #917 |
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Jesus, I feel terrible. Apologies Al, I had no idea you were legit.
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I really regret that now I can not say more. Only one thing - TMNT have a different design. 100%. |
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08-01-2017, 01:14 AM | #919 |
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I can imagine they would promote pizza as unhealthy these days. No Shredder! I guess that would mean no Karai either. I didn't expect to like this as much as 2012 anyway.
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08-01-2017, 01:35 AM | #920 | |
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