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Obvious, right? Their actions triggered the homeowner. The court decided it was the kids at fault. Obvious. |
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09-21-2016, 10:57 PM | #103 |
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I dunno... if I say, hey, Commenter 42, let's go pull a lick on this 7-Eleven with pistols, you agree, and the attendant blows you away with a shotgun... I don't know that I should be going down for your murder. While the attendant has the right to blow you or I away, he didn't have to... that is not an action that either of us forced.
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The store clerk was only defending himself. Aren't you then to blame? I get your point, but, really, maybe it's not even you at fault. Maybe it's bigger than that. Maybe your in a no win senario, institutionalized poverty, all that jazz. Like, if you watch Warren take down Wells Fargo CEO, she's holding him accountable, even though he wasn't directly commiting the crime, He instigated it. Last edited by Commenter 42; 09-22-2016 at 04:56 AM. |
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09-22-2016, 04:51 AM | #105 |
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I'm with c42 on this. If you initiate the action, you should face the consequences.
If someone breaks into my house with the intention of causing harm, until the police get there I'm not going to stand down. I have a metal bat next to my bed for self defense purposes for that very reason. Casey Jones style. |
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I did a quick Google search on this particular case, and the people seeking leniency for the convicted are doing so because they were children and tried as adults. From what I could tell the rationale behind the law, whether you believe it is flawed or not, isn't what's up for debate. There is some neurological evidence to support the theory that teenagers are not physiologically adults, that their reason centers aren't fully developed yet, and to try them as fully functioning adults is unfair.
In addition to that a case could be made that the younger people were coerced by the older ones. It's a weird case to be certain.
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Andrew, it may seem weird to you, but they weren't going to charge the homeowner because he was defending his home and was doing the right thing. The kids were in the wrong for breaking in and they really could have killed the guy if they'd wanted to. Plas, as far as I'm concerned, I don't care if they were teenagers. They committed a crime and if the courts say they should be charged as adults because of the severity of said crime, then that's the way it works. The whole idea of, "Well, they're just kids so they weren't thinking clearly" is no excuse. They knew what they were doing when they made the choice to break into the guy's home and should therefore be held responsible.
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I'm saying the surviving kid shouldn't be charged with murder because the homeowner killed the other kid. The homeowner had every right to blow the kid away, but that doesn't mean he HAD to, nor did Kid B have anything to do with any murder.
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Those tags.... Kill all men? Certainly not. But if one threatens me.... Well, I'm not taking that lying down. Just ask the LAST guy. Though I wonder if he actually remembers getting beat with the shovel handle. Drugs can mess up your brain until you dont even remember what you did, or so I hear.
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This is, kinda strange Duckie. |
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Lol. It's kind of a long story. Short version is never try to rob a place where a certain short Irish-tempered lass has been working all night without a break whilst dealing with drunk idiots. Unless ya want to get clobbered, that is....
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Good for you, Duckie. They always say never to look afraid during something like that and to act tough so they know not to mess with you. I would have done the same thing if I had been in your shoes.
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Yeah, I couldn't care less about guns, but as long as you're taking it to a place where a particular gun is legally permitted to be that transport law is kinda stupid so long that the owner themselves isn't under some kind of court ordered restriction or what not.
But... I'm hardly surprised, given how stupid many knife laws are too. I mean at least the gun can be IN your car. In my state you can't conceal a knife over 3" and being in a car counts as being concealed. So, what... strap it to the roof? Does this include a new box of kitchen large knives that was just bought? Must they be removed from their box too, to ensure that they aren't concealed? So confused. I imagine if someone somehow secured a whole bunch kitchen knives over 3", esp large ones, to the roof of their car they're going to get pulled over... |
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The same way here in WA. Been like that as far as I can remember. Exceptions being, like, machetes and stuff like that.
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Sadly they won't do much good against all the tanks and missiles Russia is using.
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