TMNT #92 Preview and Discussion - Page 4

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 03-20-2019, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Igglet

Fair enough, but the kids themselves weren't the real focus here. Honestly, I don't really care if little Billy peed his pants during the Mikey vs. Splinter fight or not. You weren't supposed to go "Oh no, not the children!" Instead, the twist put emphasis on Splinter's character and his growth. He started conflict over wanting to protect them from Karai in the same way that Mikey started conflict over wanting to protect them from HIM. This was a HUGE step for Splinter, and while it wasn't necessarily the most bombastic thing they could've gone with, it was just an absolutely amazing way to utilize characters.

Really good point, man. I just really hate that Splinter is choosing these human kids over protecting his own kids. He KNOWS this will mean war.

Me, personally? I'll sacrifice a handful of kids I DON'T know to protect the kids that are MINE.

I guess I hadn't even thought about it in terms of Splinter's character growth, because I'm reacting to it as a fellow father watching Splinter screw up and shaking my head, saying "Ya done fvcked up, Yoshi, and your kids are gonna pay the price."

martinitolove · 03-20-2019, 09:08 PM

Don't forget we have Leatherhead and Hun on the loose. As well as Null and her scorpion and snake mutants. I suppose that they'll drop in at some points of the storyline.

And I'm sure that now Karai will ally herself with Kitsune, Manmoth with the TMNT (remember his fight against EPF), Foot with Baxter.

I suppose that the next step for Karai will be - before the fightings starts - to offer the Foot members to switch to her "legitimate" side. This will result in most members switching, Jennika beeing killed, and Splinter reverting to Hamato clan's master. The Foot clan, that will ally itself with Baxter will be Karai's.

And we'll see some interaction between Kitsune and her creation Ocho. Then at 100 Shredder returns as a temporarily good guy and unite EVERYONE against the Dragon.

daggio · 03-20-2019, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Hm, I also forgot Karai recruited Bebop/Rocksteady again at the end of their mini, I wonder when she'll "debut" them back in New York. She basically has 5 mutant like creatures with her, the woman, and maybe her own clan.

The way Karai was at the end of that mini (wanting to take over New York) compared to how she was prior to this issue (wanting to do a peaceful negotiation) makes me believe that the whole epilogue to B&R Hit the Road was meant to take place during City at War. Hopefully, things will become a bit clearer on that front as the story progresses.

DrReagan · 03-20-2019, 10:42 PM

Today I feel kind of ashamed to be a Karai fan.

Splinter was happily giving her control of the foot clan, and all she had to do was promise not to turn a bunch of kids into child soldiers, and that she wouldn't KILL them, and she couldn't do that.

We're really seeing that she is A LOT more like her Grandfather then we've been shown thus far and it's very disheartening...

~~ChosenOne~~ · 03-20-2019, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by daggio

The way Karai was at the end of that mini (wanting to take over New York) compared to how she was prior to this issue (wanting to do a peaceful negotiation) makes me believe that the whole epilogue to B&R Hit the Road was meant to take place during City at War. Hopefully, things will become a bit clearer on that front as the story progresses.

I've started to think so too. She had no reason to recruit them before all of this, knowing how unstable they are as assets. It's a deliberate wartime measure.

Zog The Magnificent · 03-21-2019, 02:41 AM

Wait, it keeps getting mentioned that Karai re-recruited Bebop and Rocksteady. When did that happen? I checked Hit the Road #5 and I didn't see it there, and that was Bebop and Rocksteady's last appearance.

AlZarkovski · 03-21-2019, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

Wait, it keeps getting mentioned that Karai re-recruited Bebop and Rocksteady. When did that happen? I checked Hit the Road #5 and I didn't see it there, and that was Bebop and Rocksteady's last appearance.

Last page in Hit the Road #5 (epiloge)

*CyberCubed* · 03-21-2019, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by martinitolove

Don't forget we have Leatherhead and Hun on the loose. As well as Null and her scorpion and snake mutants. I suppose that they'll drop in at some points of the storyline.

Well Leatherhead is pretty much just by himself, he wants revenge on Utroms, so he really doesn't have much of a place in this story even if he appears. I'm sure Null won't appear at all till post issue 100.

As for Hun I'd like to see him team up with Casey again unless he gets killed off, which may very well happen.

03-21-2019, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Really good point, man. I just really hate that Splinter is choosing these human kids over protecting his own kids. He KNOWS this will mean war.

Me, personally? I'll sacrifice a handful of kids I DON'T know to protect the kids that are MINE.

I guess I hadn't even thought about it in terms of Splinter's character growth, because I'm reacting to it as a fellow father watching Splinter screw up and shaking my head, saying "Ya done fvcked up, Yoshi, and your kids are gonna pay the price."

That's fair enough, but, again, I feel like it's showcasing Splinter's development, because just issues ago, he WAS acting the same. Remember the Invasion of Triceratons? Splinter was fully willing to let the Triceratons die because he didn't want his own sons in the battlefield. Yet again, we have an example of his character growth, because the Turtles showed him they're not children anymore. He's learned from them.

daggio · 03-21-2019, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by martinitolove

As well as Null and her scorpion and snake mutants. I suppose that they'll drop in at some points of the storyline.

You know, I was thinking about Null and her mutants after what you wrote, martinintolove, and remembered that last we saw Zodi (in the short "Nobody Cares") she seemingly got placed into EPF custody thanks to Angel. Maybe whenever Bishop starts in on the fight, Zodi will be an EPF operative.

03-21-2019, 08:05 AM

Also, can I just say that Jennika was a badass? She appeared for, like, one panel, but she was an absolute madlass in it.

daggio · 03-21-2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne

I've started to think so too. She had no reason to recruit them before all of this, knowing how unstable they are as assets. It's a deliberate wartime measure.

The way that mini ended, to me, at first didn't seem to make sense. Bebop and Rocksteady were unconscious and at the mercy of the remaining EPF soldiers on the bridge. Then, they're coming to in the middle of a street in New York with no EPF in sight. When I read that, to me it left me with many questions. Now things, at least to me, are becoming a little bit clearer. Maybe Bebop and Rocksteady (and Anchovy) were taken into EPF custody and then released to be used as some sort of Trojan Horse.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 03-21-2019, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by daggio

You know, I was thinking about Null and her mutants after what you wrote, martinintolove, and remembered that last we saw Zodi (in the short "Nobody Cares") she seemingly got placed into EPF custody thanks to Angel. Maybe whenever Bishop starts in on the fight, Zodi will be an EPF operative.

Where was this? I'm drawing a blank.

martinitolove · 03-21-2019, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by daggio

You know, I was thinking about Null and her mutants after what you wrote, martinintolove, and remembered that last we saw Zodi (in the short "Nobody Cares") she seemingly got placed into EPF custody thanks to Angel. Maybe whenever Bishop starts in on the fight, Zodi will be an EPF operative.

I have a feeling that the less we await Null and her mutants beeing a part of City at War, the surer they will be there. Null needs to become a treat and here is a venue for that.

daggio · 03-21-2019, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Where was this? I'm drawing a blank.

Back-up short to TMNT Universe #23

~~ChosenOne~~ · 03-21-2019, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by daggio

Back-up short to TMNT Universe #23

Oh... Thanks! I guess I did too good a job trying to forget all about that issue.

Zog The Magnificent · 03-21-2019, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlZarkovski

Last page in Hit the Road #5 (epiloge)

I can't believe that there was a page I missed this whole time. There were so many ads in between it and the other last page that I never flipped all the way to the end. Don't I feel silly now. Thanks by the way!

*oldmanwinters* · 03-21-2019, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

I can't believe that there was a page I missed this whole time. There were so many ads in between it and the other last page that I never flipped all the way to the end. Don't I feel silly now. Thanks by the way!

Almost happened to me as well!

~~ChosenOne~~ · 03-21-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

I can't believe that there was a page I missed this whole time. There were so many ads in between it and the other last page that I never flipped all the way to the end. Don't I feel silly now. Thanks by the way!

Look on the bright side, this way you at least read it in (the most likely) chronological order.

*CyberCubed* · 03-21-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by martinitolove

I have a feeling that the less we await Null and her mutants beeing a part of City at War, the surer they will be there. Null needs to become a treat and here is a venue for that.

Null has never appeared in the main series to date, I wouldn't be surprised if she is postponed to post issue 100 just like with Ch'rell. Might as well save two villains for later as they wrap up all the current plotlines.

Seems Karai, Bishop/Metalhead and the Pantheon/return of Shredder are the big priorities now.

03-20-2019, 09:08 PM	#62
martinitolove Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 246	Don't forget we have Leatherhead and Hun on the loose. As well as Null and her scorpion and snake mutants. I suppose that they'll drop in at some points of the storyline. And I'm sure that now Karai will ally herself with Kitsune, Manmoth with the TMNT (remember his fight against EPF), Foot with Baxter. I suppose that the next step for Karai will be - before the fightings starts - to offer the Foot members to switch to her "legitimate" side. This will result in most members switching, Jennika beeing killed, and Splinter reverting to Hamato clan's master. The Foot clan, that will ally itself with Baxter will be Karai's. And we'll see some interaction between Kitsune and her creation Ocho. Then at 100 Shredder returns as a temporarily good guy and unite EVERYONE against the Dragon.

03-20-2019, 10:42 PM	#64
DrReagan Mouser Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 12	Today I feel kind of ashamed to be a Karai fan. Splinter was happily giving her control of the foot clan, and all she had to do was promise not to turn a bunch of kids into child soldiers, and that she wouldn't KILL them, and she couldn't do that. We're really seeing that she is A LOT more like her Grandfather then we've been shown thus far and it's very disheartening...

03-21-2019, 02:41 AM	#66
Zog The Magnificent Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 570	Wait, it keeps getting mentioned that Karai re-recruited Bebop and Rocksteady. When did that happen? I checked Hit the Road #5 and I didn't see it there, and that was Bebop and Rocksteady's last appearance.

03-21-2019, 08:05 AM	#71
Igglet Guest Posts: n/a	Also, can I just say that Jennika was a badass? She appeared for, like, one panel, but she was an absolute madlass in it.