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Old 10-23-2021, 07:57 PM   #1
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Top Ten darkest episodes of the original cartoon series



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Old 10-23-2021, 08:12 PM   #2
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I'm very surprised that Enter the Fly isn't on this list. I think that one is probably the clear candidate for "Darkest of Season 2" between Krang having no hesitation to disintegrate Baxter for a screwup (Shredder doesn't care either) and April being poisoned unto the point of actual death (and everybody gets very sad about it).
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Old 10-23-2021, 08:45 PM   #3
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"Cowabunga Shredhead" in a top 10 darkest episodes list, are you kidding me?
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Old 10-23-2021, 11:14 PM   #4
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I'll be honest, at a glance I thought this was a joke thread. "There were 'dark' episodes of FW TMNT? F*cking WHERE?"

I guess a couple of them might be considered "Dark" when compared to, like... the 99.999% of the episodes that were cotton candy fluffballs. But even then, like... the "darkest" episode of TMNT isn't even half as "dark" as the most benign Real Ghostbusters episode. Pre-"Slimer and..." seasons, obviously.

I guess that's why, to me, even as a kid I wouldn't have said a single episode of FW TMNT was "dark". To me the show was always nothing but a lark from A to Z.
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Old 10-23-2021, 11:39 PM   #5
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I'll be honest, at a glance I thought this was a joke thread. "There were 'dark' episodes of FW TMNT? F*cking WHERE?"

I guess a couple of them might be considered "Dark" when compared to, like... the 99.999% of the episodes that were cotton candy fluffballs. But even then, like... the "darkest" episode of TMNT isn't even half as "dark" as the most benign Real Ghostbusters episode. Pre-"Slimer and..." seasons, obviously.

I guess that's why, to me, even as a kid I wouldn't have said a single episode of FW TMNT was "dark". To me the show was always nothing but a lark from A to Z.
I agree with you that the show isn't dark, but the top 10 list is extremely bizzare, it doesn't even attempt to explain why the episodes are "dark", just summarises the plot in them. There were better episodes to choose from like the first episode of Red Sky where Shredder blew up Channel Six building or the episode where Krang tries to have Baxter executed like Oldmanwinters said.
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Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.

Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 10-23-2021, 11:49 PM   #6
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I honestly didn't watch it yet.
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Old 10-24-2021, 01:56 PM   #7
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Some "dark episodes":

"Enter: the Fly" (Krang almost kills Baxter Stockman and Shredder almost poisons April O'Neil to death)

"Splinter No More" (deals with racism, Human fear of unknown)

"The Catwoman from Channel Six" (cat-April O'Neil almost kills Splinter)

"Enter the Rat King" (The Turtles coud have been beaten and kicked to death by their own sensei)

"Take Me to Your Leader" (Sun is shrinking and Leonardo si gone. The tone feels darker than many other episodes where Earth is in danger)

"Shredderville" (just a dream, but it deals with totalitarian governments and they aren't fun, even for a microsecond)

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Old 10-24-2021, 06:18 PM   #8
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I totally agree with the others about Enter The Fly. Krang was going to execute Baxter.

Here are some other episodes I think are dark:

A Thing About Rats - Shredder had the foot soldiers destroy Baxter from knowing too much.

The Big Ripoff - April suffocating in the vault.

Night of the Dark Turtle: as Donatello became the dark turtle, he was super obsessed with killing Shredder and he came so close to doing it in the end.

The Legend of Koji - Shredder tried to destroy Splinter’s ancestor to prevent Splinter and the turtles from ever existing.

Carter The Enforcer, the turtles go to the future where Dregg rules the world and the turtles were destroyed. Landor and Merrick were holding hands as they were about to be destroyed as they sent the turtles back to the present. I find this episode similar to Same As It Never Was from the 2003 series though that episode is way way way darker.

In Doomquest, Splinter said the turtles may have to sacrifice more than they can imagine to defeat Dregg. They had to destroy the vortex crystal because there was more at stake than what happens to the four of them.

The Return of Dregg, the way he got rid of hi tech.

Beginning of the End, Leonardo came so close to exploding with his mutation.

A Turtle In Time - getting their life energy drained.
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Old 10-25-2021, 09:14 AM   #9
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And these episodes in the video are considered "dark" in comparison to what exactly?
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Old 10-27-2021, 06:44 AM   #10
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None of the pre red sky episodes were dark in any way, shape or form.

What about "Get Shredder", where the latter blew up the Channel 6 building?
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Old 10-27-2021, 08:06 PM   #11
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1987 TMNT was hated by some parents for being too violent. There's darkness in that.

I think it's important to distinguish peril from darkness. The 1987 series was more perilous than dark.

Some moments that had darkness were The Technodrome being at full power, the raw power and technological advantage Shredder and Krang had over the turtles and the world.

The highway scene in the Big Blowout had darkness.
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Old 10-29-2021, 09:36 AM   #12
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The best was the one where i blew up the channel 6 bulding. I was very close to kill April but unfortunately she managed to escape GRRRR!!!! But this is nothing compared to the millions i kiled in 2003 series !
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