Star Trek: Discovery - Page 14

**Jester** · 10-23-2017, 01:24 PM

Three Things I learned from last night's Discovery:

Holodecks existed pre-Kirk and co. though possibly only for training simulation.
Vulcan Mind Melds and Katra sharing have healing effects and even allow you to communicate through the vastness of space.
Michal Burnham is the greatest human...nay....BEING in Star Trek. EVER!

Why am I bothering with this anymore?

*Vegita-San* · 10-23-2017, 01:29 PM

people'll try and guilt you into watching it?

apparently what you've got coming up next is..

Spoiler:

smh

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-23-2017, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

Three Things I learned from last night's Discovery:

Holodecks existed pre-Kirk and co. though possibly only for training simulation.
Vulcan Mind Melds and Katra sharing have healing effects and even allow you to communicate through the vastness of space.
Michal Burnham is the greatest human...nay....BEING in Star Trek. EVER!

Why am I bothering with this anymore?

Because Saru is awesome?

I dunno, I haven't gotten back to watching since Episode 3... I'll get back to it eventually, but I've got Stranger Things and Punisher to look forward to right now.

**Jester** · 10-23-2017, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

people'll try and guilt you into watching it?

apparently what you've got coming up next is..

Spoiler:

smh

Nah, I thin it's the Star Trek in the name...gotta at least give it a shot, even when it confounds me.

Yeah...the being stuck for 6 months near scraps of Star Fleet Vessels, one with a functional warp component that wasn't salvaged or destroyed in that time by the Federation and thus having to

Spoiler:

was ridiculous. So ridiculous that the spoiled bits are the most understandable part of it.

EDIT: And yes, Cylons, Saru is probably my favorite thing about this show.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-23-2017, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

Nah, I thin it's the Star Trek in the name...gotta at least give it a shot, even when it confounds me.

Yeah...the being stuck for 6 months near scraps of Star Fleet Vessels, one with a functional warp component that wasn't salvaged or destroyed in that time by the Federation and thus having to

Spoiler:

was ridiculous. So ridiculous that the spoiled bits are the most understandable part of it.

EDIT: And yes, Cylons, Saru is probably my favorite thing about this show.

Saru and Lorca. I was really liking Lorca, but I've only seen him in one episode. Like I said, I've been okay with the series, but it hasn't compelled me to keep up on it very regularly.

**Jester** · 10-23-2017, 01:45 PM

At least Lorca's another character with some development...can't say much for any character that isn't Michael.

Though I do kinda like Tilly as well.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-23-2017, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

At least Lorca's another character with some development...can't say much for any character that isn't Michael.

Though I do kinda like Tilly as well.

Captain Georgiou was great. Then she died.

I'm not a fan of Tilly. Oh, I liked Stamets.

Michael is... well, she grew on me in Episode 3. I'm holding out hope for her character.

**Jester** · 10-23-2017, 02:45 PM

I have moments where I don't dislike Michael, but man episode 6 made it hard.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-23-2017, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

I have moments where I don't dislike Michael, but man episode 6 made it hard.

How were 4 and 5?

Also, Pocket Books released a book written in sync with the showrunners and writers, that does a REALLY good job of digging into Michael's relationship with Sarek and Spock. I read it and it really went a long way towards mollifying my irritation at "shoehorning" in Spock and Sarek.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501164570...d=2D6V7EG0NP50

**Jester** · 10-23-2017, 03:21 PM

5 was the least Michael-centric, focusing more on Lorca and introducing Rain Wilson's Harry Mudd. It was probably my favorite so far. I've forgotten most of 4.

EDIT:
Episode 4 was the most Star Trek like of them. With the potential ethical implications of the spore drive.

**Jester** · 10-24-2017, 11:02 AM

Also "logic extremists" are a thing...wha?

*Vegita-San* · 10-24-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Also "logic extremists" are a thing...wha?

trying a mite too hard to shoe horn trek into modern times, they be doin'? smh..sigh.

*plastroncafe* · 10-24-2017, 12:14 PM

That doesn't really seem all that much different than the Romulan/Vulcan schism.

**Jester** · 10-29-2017, 10:31 PM

The old tried and true plot line of a ship caught in a tom loop did it. I now have a favorite episode. This was fun, actually used the cast a bit more, and just finally felt like Star Trek.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-30-2017, 10:48 AM

I haven't seen the latest one but the two before it were particularly depressing. In the beginning of watching this show it was like, "Oh look, replicators and warp-capable shuttles and holographic projectors over a century before that's a thing... they just really don't care, do they? I mean, what's next... freaking holodecks??"

Now there's holodecks. F*** this show.

*newfan* · 10-30-2017, 12:16 PM

I haven't bothered to check if it's on over here but I'm not feeling it from the comments so far

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-30-2017, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I haven't seen the latest one but the two before it were particularly depressing. In the beginning of watching this show it was like, "Oh look, replicators and warp-capable shuttles and holographic projectors over a century before that's a thing... they just really don't care, do they? I mean, what's next... freaking holodecks??"

Now there's holodecks. F*** this show.

I'm more irritated that they've made Mudd a murderer.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-30-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I'm more irritated that they've made Mudd a murderer.

That, too. FAKE Mudd!

And Mudd looks older in Discovery than he did in TOS, even though TOS takes place 10 years later. Probably because Rainn Wilson is like twice as old now as Roger C. Carmel was when he played Mudd.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-30-2017, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That, too. FAKE Mudd!

And Mudd looks older in Discovery than he did in TOS, even though TOS takes place 10 years later. Probably because Rainn Wilson is like twice as old now as Roger C. Carmel was when he played Mudd.

He really, REALLY does.

So maybe... maybe Harcourt Fenton Mudd is like the Dread Pirate Roberts. Except, y'know... not intimidating.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-01-2017, 10:48 AM

For as much good as I heard about this past Sunday's "Discovery" I found it to be all kinds of bad. Mudd, openly murdering people now? Let's completely forget about the poor, sick space whale that's sitting in the hangar? Apparently no matter where you are in the galaxy, you can get a message to any ship out there, anywhere, and they can be where you are within 30 minutes? There are some playful performances this episode but I can't fathom how people are swallowing this and saying "Finally! This is Trek!" This is pretty far from it. It does not care about Trek and it does not care about you.

10-23-2017, 01:24 PM	#261
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	Three Things I learned from last night's Discovery: Holodecks existed pre-Kirk and co. though possibly only for training simulation. Vulcan Mind Melds and Katra sharing have healing effects and even allow you to communicate through the vastness of space. Michal Burnham is the greatest human...nay....BEING in Star Trek. EVER! Why am I bothering with this anymore? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-23-2017, 01:29 PM	#262
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,915	people'll try and guilt you into watching it? apparently what you've got coming up next is.. Spoiler: Klingons eat humans now.. smh

10-23-2017, 01:45 PM	#266
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	At least Lorca's another character with some development...can't say much for any character that isn't Michael. Though I do kinda like Tilly as well. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-23-2017, 02:45 PM	#268
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	I have moments where I don't dislike Michael, but man episode 6 made it hard. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-23-2017, 03:21 PM	#270
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	5 was the least Michael-centric, focusing more on Lorca and introducing Rain Wilson's Harry Mudd. It was probably my favorite so far. I've forgotten most of 4. EDIT: Episode 4 was the most Star Trek like of them. With the potential ethical implications of the spore drive. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-24-2017, 11:02 AM	#271
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	Also "logic extremists" are a thing...wha? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-29-2017, 10:31 PM	#274
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	The old tried and true plot line of a ship caught in a tom loop did it. I now have a favorite episode. This was fun, actually used the cast a bit more, and just finally felt like Star Trek. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-30-2017, 10:48 AM	#275
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	I haven't seen the latest one but the two before it were particularly depressing. In the beginning of watching this show it was like, "Oh look, replicators and warp-capable shuttles and holographic projectors over a century before that's a thing... they just really don't care, do they? I mean, what's next... freaking holodecks??" Now there's holodecks. F*** this show. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-30-2017, 12:16 PM	#276
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	I haven't bothered to check if it's on over here but I'm not feeling it from the comments so far

11-01-2017, 10:48 AM	#280
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	For as much good as I heard about this past Sunday's "Discovery" I found it to be all kinds of bad. Mudd, openly murdering people now? Let's completely forget about the poor, sick space whale that's sitting in the hangar? Apparently no matter where you are in the galaxy, you can get a message to any ship out there, anywhere, and they can be where you are within 30 minutes? There are some playful performances this episode but I can't fathom how people are swallowing this and saying "Finally! This is Trek!" This is pretty far from it. It does not care about Trek and it does not care about you. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]