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It's just the same way it's always been, never gonna change 3 13.64%
They're just trying to recreate Turtlemania from the 90s, and it's working 5 22.73%
They're just trying to recreate Turtlemania from the 90s, but now the wheels are coming off 3 13.64%
They're being idiots, and OotS' failure will hopefully be the slap on the wrist to right the ship 9 40.91%
TMNT is always going to be a property for little kids and nothing but 2 9.09%
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:45 PM   #21
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Sh*t like Hellboy, Savage Dragon and Usagi are still around. Cerebus had a long run. TMNT would have carried on without the massive exposure that going corporate gave them.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:48 PM   #22
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Sh*t like Hellboy, Savage Dragon and Usagi are still around. Cerebus had a long run. TMNT would have carried on without the massive exposure that going corporate gave them.
I thought about that, but who knows if E&L would've had the drive to keep going or if they would've ended on a good note somewhere in the late 90s. The latter is probably more likely given the various Mirage breaks and hiatuses.

Also, Spawn is still around funny enough. Mcfarlane left two years back I believe.
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Are there still new Usagi comics? I would like to read some.
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Are there still new Usagi comics? I would like to read some.
Yeah they're still being published.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:57 AM   #25
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Are there still new Usagi comics? I would like to read some.
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Yeah they're still being published.

So I'm not the only one thinking that. I figured with a handful of newbies the odds are that he would attempt to slither back in.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:47 AM   #26
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Yeah the whole "TMNT wouldn't still exist if it wasn't for Fred Wolf" thing is a total fallacy, there could have still been TMNT cartoons, movies or some other spike in popularity later on. Saying that this one particular adaptation had to exist for a secure future is utterly absurd, all it's existance really means is that it happened sooner.

Funny thing how this argument usually only comes up when the quality of the FW cartoon comes into question... Even funnier is how it doesn't have anything to do with quality.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:30 PM   #27
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While I'd like to see a TMNT series or film that is more mature and truer to the original comics, I think that the damage done to the series by the FW abortion is irreversible because since the old cartoon became popular, people have seen the Turtles as goofy, rainbow bandanna wearing, pizza addicts, who talk like surfers and while it is possible that an adaptation might be made that is more adult and truer to the comics, the damage to the Turtles reputation has already been done.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:48 PM   #28
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The damage can always be fixed. It happened to Batman, it can happen to turtles.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:54 PM   #29
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The damage can always be fixed. It happened to Batman, it can happen to turtles.
It happened to Batman before the internet. Even Keaton wasn't aware that Burton's movie wouldn't be like the Adam West show.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:01 PM   #30
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So I'm not the only one thinking that. I figured with a handful of newbies the odds are that he would attempt to slither back in.
I just really like Usagi as a character. Also how Stan Sakai draws the TMNT is cool.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:23 PM   #31
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I just really like Usagi as a character. Also how Stan Sakai draws the TMNT is cool.
I guess you also like Etsy, because you recently visited his profile page.

The cat's out of the bag, Mew.
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I personally feel like the "well known" persona comes more from the Next Mutation, personally. Or at least the third movie. The "pizza addicted surfer speech" being applied to all of them wasn't really a thing until the original turtlemania was on its deathbed in the mid-90's as far as I can tell. However, because people remember that better, it's what stuck.

My personal thoughts of their general attitude was looking at a bizarre situation, saying "Welp...time to deal with this" and just going with it. At least very early on. Seasons 1-3.
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