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Old 01-20-2019, 10:26 AM   #1
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Abandoned underground city in A Thing About Rats

In the episode A Thing About Rats of the Fred Wolf series, the Technodrome is seeen breaking through an abandoned underground city, located in a cavern beneath Manhattan

http://www.thetechnodrome.com/images...nodrome140.jpg

What the heck was that? Do you think it was something from the original script, or anything else?
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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The writers in 1987 were nostradamus and predicted 20-30 years into the future that there would be an underground city in both the 2k3 series and Rise of the TMNT.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:38 AM   #3
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It's either the underground city of Rise but the OT version of it, we just never saw it actually happen on screen but the OT turtles totally had an adventure there that was similar.

This is how retcons are supposed to work, take something random that had no purpose and give it one that is a cool one and makes sense.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:40 AM   #4
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OT turtles totally had an adventure there that was similar.
It was already abandoned, and demolished by the Technodrome.
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It was already abandoned, and demolished by the Technodrome.
Yeah, right after they meet Shredder, remember the Underground city adventures against Baron Draxum are a prequel
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:52 AM   #6
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Splinter No More

How about connecting it to the cult mentioned in Splinter No More? Maybe they first built it, and then migrated to Dimension X.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:10 PM   #7
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How about connecting it to the cult mentioned in Splinter No More? Maybe they first built it, and then migrated to Dimension X.
That was my first thought upon seeing the city, even before watching Splinter No More. That its some underground cult hideout.
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:20 PM   #8
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Air raid shelter

Or maybe some air raid shelter?
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Or maybe some air raid shelter?
A possibility due to the real Cold War fears in America during the 1950s onwards.
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What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:53 PM   #10
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I always thought it was some ancient ruins.

Interestingly the first issue of Tales of the TMNT V2 had the turtles going to the remains of the original dutch settlements that look just like the ruins from A Thing About Rats. Excuse my ignorance of American history but is this a thing? Like I'm reasonably sure that the remains of New Amsterdam are not really underneath NYC but is this a pop culture myth of something?
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:47 PM   #11
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No actual remains that I'm aware of, but yes, the original settlement was built where NYC now stands. Specifically, the area from Battery Park up to around the Flatiron and East Side districts, iirc. A few things do remain from the early days, like Castle Clinton, which was the fort in early colonial days, and I think Wall Street was one of the oldest sections as well.
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It doesn't look like 17th century Netherlands architecture.
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Linking it up to the Splinter No More cult is a cool idea, an underground NY like the one from Rise is my second favorite idea. Canons are fluid and similar events happen in all continuities even if it's through retcons, until proven otherwise I think characters/events from other timelines exist/happened in other timelines even if we don't see it in one way or another.
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Maybe it's what inspired Futurama's New New York and Old New York:
https://theinfosphere.org/Old_New_York
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:33 PM   #15
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Linking it up to the Splinter No More cult is a cool idea
Would like to see the turtles interact with them (given the cult continued throughout the rest of the 20th century, with new followers).
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Would be interesting to see if this was explained in the script somewhere.
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Would be interesting to see if this was explained in the script somewhere.
I would like to see the original script for season 1. Some claim it has Krang taking over Shredder's body, and the turtles moving into the Technodrome.
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I would like to see the original script for season 1. Some claim it has Krang taking over Shredder's body, and the turtles moving into the Technodrome.
I don't know if that ever made it all the way into a script, but it was an early concept from Fred Wolf Films was that nixed, according to this 1989 Comics Scene interview with Eastman and Laird:
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I don't know if that ever made it all the way into a script, but it was an early concept from Fred Wolf Films was that nixed, according to this 1989 Comics Scene interview with Eastman and Laird:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...1BZVlZ3UEZfZ0E
You mean draft? Or maybe protoscript?
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I would like to see the original script for season 1. Some claim it has Krang taking over Shredder's body, and the turtles moving into the Technodrome.
I asked David on FB but he rarely responds to me so don't hold your breath on that one.
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