Mutant Mayhem Box Office Prediction

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Powder

This doesn't hit Japan until September 22nd but they've been promoting the shell out of it over there & it seems to have generated a lot of hype. I have a few buddies overseas (including the JP dub VA for Ray Fillet, I might add!) & they've all been buzzing about it. I've seen them posting pop-up shops, a TMNT cafe, merch roll-outs, etc. As one told me "We've been deprived of TMNT for a while now." so who knows. It should do at least modestly well there.

Didn't the 2012 series dub get canceled in Japan before they even showed the full show over there? I remember hearing they stopped after season 2. I don't know, TMNT isn't as big in Japan as it should be.

You'd think a series about Asians with Japanese ninja's would be really popular there again like the 90's but modern animu is just better than it I guess. Also nick 2012 had "loli April" and even that didn't do it for them.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Didn't the 2012 series dub get canceled in Japan before they even showed the full show over there? I remember hearing they stopped after season 2. I don't know, TMNT isn't as big in Japan as it should be.

You'd think a series about Asians with Japanese ninja's would be really popular there again like the 90's but modern animu is just better than it I guess. Also nick 2012 had "loli April" and even that didn't do it for them.

Most American toons don’t do get a warm reception in Japan. Exceptions include X-Men and TMNT.
I think the original Turtle toon did as well as it did over there in the mid-90s because they were able to localize it and make it their own with lots of original art and merchandise exclusive to the Japanese market. Credit to Playmates and Mirage licensing, I suppose. The 4Kids run also had measured success with more exclusive products.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Most American toons don’t do get a warm reception in Japan. Exceptions include X-Men and TMNT.
I think the original Turtle toon did as well as it did over there in the mid-90s because they were able to localize it and make it their own with lots of original art and merchandise exclusive to the Japanese market. Credit to Playmates and Mirage licensing, I suppose. The 4Kids run also had measured success with more exclusive products.

Sadly, Japan only got the first two seasons of the 4Kids show. I think I was told that the OT hit Japan in 1993, even though stuff like video games came before it.

[Vicky82]

Mutant Mayhem in the UK has done £3.7m at the box office.

Paramount’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem made it two new titles in the top five, starting with £1.7m from 612 sites at a £2,708 average. Having opened on Monday, July 31, the film is up to £3.7m including previews. It has overtaken the £3m lifetime total of 2007’s TMNT and now stands a good chance of catching the £6m of 2016’s Out Of The Shadows, the last Ninja Turtles film.

https://www.screendaily.com/news/bar...184729.article

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Didn't the 2012 series dub get canceled in Japan before they even showed the full show over there? I remember hearing they stopped after season 2. I don't know, TMNT isn't as big in Japan as it should be.

According to the Japanese Language Wikipedia, all episodes of the 2102 TMNT aired cartoon aired over TV Tokyo and Disney XD, starting with Rise of the Turtles in April 2014 and ending with the Fred Wolf Bebop and Rocksteady crossover episodes in June 2019.

[Zulithe]

Current box office status:

As of August 7, 2023, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem has grossed $46.8 million in the United States and Canada, and $8.5 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $55.3 million.[3][4]

In the United States and Canada, Mutant Mayhem was projected to gross around $30 million from 3,851 theaters over its first five days of release.[2] The film made $10.2 million on its first day (including $3.85 million from Tuesday night previews).[70][71] It went on to make $28 million in its opening weekend (and a total of $43 million over the five days), finishing fourth behind Barbie, Meg 2: The Trench, and Oppenheimer.[72]

And an update for today (domestic only currently)

BoxOfficeReport.com
@BORReport
Paramount's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem grossed $4.76M on Tuesday (from 3,858 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $51.57M.

https://twitter.com/BORReport/status...62001653628928

Tracking here: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt8589698/
& here
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Te...3)#tab=summary

The latest data shows MM has earned $60,070,444 worldwide so far.

It still has not opened in many countries yet. Only 3 other than the USA so far.

[IMJ]

None of those totals are striking me as "ground breaking" or "huge" by any means at all.

I don't really think we are seeing a "hugely successful" acceptance of this as the apologists here would have you believe, but like I've said before - Monday or Tuesday of week 3 will deliver a more accurate picture.

I will say though that it looks like what we are seeing is a generally accepted "cartoon" that kids and families went to see. Which is fine, really.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by IMJ

None of those totals are striking me as "ground breaking" or "huge" by any means at all.

I don't really think we are seeing a "hugely successful" acceptance of this as the apologists here would have you believe, but like I've said before - Monday or Tuesday of week 3 will deliver a more accurate picture.

I will say though that it looks like what we are seeing is a generally accepted "cartoon" that kids and families went to see. Which is fine, really.

It was never going to be a huge success comparable to the Mario film but the Ninja Turtles IP is nowhere as big as some people might believe. Paramount seems to have come to understand this so they didn't put it up against heavy competition and lowered the budget from the previous films. So far, it seems to be working out because it's pacing similarly to other animated films like the first Spider-Verse or Puss in Boots 2 and the projections for the second weekend are very optimistic.

[pdizzle]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

but the Ninja Turtles IP is nowhere as big as some people might believe.

This couldn't be further from the truth. There is definitely a huge success for this ip waiting to happen if they would just stop pandering to palymates and all of their licensing deals and understand their target audience. They keep on over and over revamping it for a new generation while only throwing Nostalgia crumbs at its core audience and this is coming from someone who enjoyed this film but even i understand that my fandom was overlooked for a new one.

A good case in point would be the first live action 2014 movie that pulled in over 500million because the actual fan base wanted to see THEIR IP. Had that movie had good word of mouth the sky could have been the limit but they disguised their garbage remake behind a beloved IP to make it "not your daddys turtles" because they didnt truley understand what they had.

Also not sure if your into games or not but theres a video floating around youtube somewhere for injustice 2 when they announced tmnt as playable characters and the reaction in that room was quite overwhelming.

Furthermore look at the last ronin sales. That comic out sold dc and marvel because of the intrest people have in this ip when its done for its core audience and not dumbed down to a kids property.

The problem is that paramount and playmates keep chasing that high that kids brought in in the early 90s trying to recreate its success but failing to realize it could be so much more if theyed let it.

All im saying is if what you say is true its only because the moves paramount made with this ip to keep it for a every new generation instead of rembering the fans who made tmnt last nearly 40 years.
But with that being said NOTHING last 40 years without the support of a huge fan base

[Barkworm]

Let me specify: It's definitely a big IP but it's not HUGE. It's not Batman or Spider-Man. The biggest Ninja Turtles film ever made about 500 million. Which is a lot! But no Ninja Turtles film will ever make the numbers that the new Mario film or Barbie got, 'faithful to the source material ' or not.

[Vicky82]

Mutant Mayhem is expected to make $15.75M ($72.79m) and go up to 3rd place in the US Box office.

https://twitter.com/BORReport/status...702221313?s=20

[RaphaelinSTL]

Awesome to see.

[terrorblade]

Seems like the best case scenario right now is to beat the second Bay movie's box office numbers, which wouldn't be a bad thing since this only cost half of OOTS's budget.


My only concern is the international numbers, no idea why the release dates are so far apart from each other.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by terrorblade

Seems like the best case scenario right now is to beat the second Bay movie's box office numbers, which wouldn't be a bad thing since this only cost half of OOTS's budget.


My only concern is the international numbers, no idea why the release dates are so far apart from each other.

Someone apparently tweeted that it's passed $100m Worldwide.

[Zulithe]

#TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles: #MutantMayhem* still strong at US #BoxOffice after solid 15.8M 2nd 3-day weekend,
Strong legs, just a -43.8% drop from last weekend (vs #Encanto 13.1M, -51.7%, #IntoTheSpiderVerse 16.5M, -53.4%).
New #TMNT* hits a 72.8M US cume!
Eyeing a 110M-135M US run

https://x.com/luiz_fernando_j/status...34846945980416

[Barkworm]

In China it bombed though and they loved the PD Turtles.

[Zulithe]

Discussing Film is reporting it passed 100M worldwide now. It's not reflected on the charts yet but probably when they update them today.

Yeah not great in China. But doing okay in UK, Mexico, France, Germany.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Discussing Film is reporting it passed 100M worldwide now. It's not reflected on the charts yet but probably when they update them today.

Yeah not great in China. But doing okay in UK, Mexico, France, Germany.

Considering the second week has come and gone, I'm not really imagining this movie getting more than 180 million worldwide.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Considering the second week has come and gone, I'm not really imagining this movie getting more than 180 million worldwide.

Me too. A lot of posts trying to celebrate this slow crawl of continued ticket sales, but that just feels like over compensating. It sounds like the movie has done fine - not a breakout success or culture phenomena or anything even remotely close to that. It's done fine - which is... fine.

[Andrew NDB]

Oooch, second weekend is over and it's only hit 72 domestically, with only 22 internationally? It's best hope is to break even, at this point. Weekend #3, the theaters are going to be swallowing up most of that box office and the international dollars aren't really saving the day here.