Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 25: Requiem

[Mini-Turtle]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Well I FINALLY got to watch it thanks to Redworld96 putting it on his tumblr. My god what an episode this is the first Cartoon that brought me to tears. I loved the Nod to the 1990 movie ending with Casey.

Shame on all the Cartoon sites for not having this up yet.

Putting it on HER tumblr.

[MrTMNT2012]

Don't know if it was an effect of the super mutagen but YO...Character development for Shredder!

Can't remember the last time I saw a villain actually progress as a character, not necessarily turn good but actually develop his malicious dissonance from the world. (Maybe Zaheer from The Legend of Korra)

The fact that he no longer has any earthly attachments makes him THAT much more intimidating!

[CrazyNinjaGirl]

I say this episode does hit the feels really hard but it is kind of ruined by the fact that this is Splinter death number 4. 1st The Invasion Thrown in drainpipe 2nd Killed by shredder before earth was destroyed 3rd was Darkest Plight. Even though 1 & 3 were fakeouts they still played the "Splinter is dead" card, so it kind of takes away from this episode. If the "Splinter is dead" card wasn't so overused I would be bawling my eyes out right now but it kind of takes away from the moment. But it is still a heartbreaking scene that hit me in the feels and is one of the darkest and saddest things I've seen on a kids cartoon.

[CyberCubed]

Are people really being serious when they said they got emotional over Splinter dying? It's sad and all, but after seeing Splinter almost die like 3 times before in this series, seeing it happen yet again even if it was for real this time didn't have as much impact.

I was honestly more shocked when it happened in the Season 3 finale than now.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Are people really being serious when they said they got emotional over Splinter dying? It's sad and all, but after seeing Splinter almost die like 3 times before in this series, seeing it happen yet again even if it was for real this time didn't have as much impact.

I was honestly more shocked when it happened in the Season 3 finale than now.

At this point, it's like the poor old master has become the "Jean Grey/Phoenix" of the franchise. I look forward to the inevitable Ghost/Spirit Splinter in Season 5.

[IndigoErth]

Those other times were a little emotional, but weren't as bad since we knew it was unlikely to be permanent. Different this time since we know it's for real... (Doesn't help either if you've already lost a parent too soon yourself and can sympathize with the Turtles.)

[CrazyNinjaGirl]

So did we actually kill him or are we gonna find some magic crud or Renet.

[CyberCubed]

I don't know what happens in the next episode, but I assume he's gone for good this time.

But yeah, get ready for ghost Splinter ala Yoda and Obi-wan in Season 5. They'll probably do what Movie 1 did too and he'll appear in a campfire.

[ABrown]

Unbelievable Nickelodeon. This is seriously the way that they perceive the TMNT franchise: as having been created by Fred Wolf. Having the battle on top of the "Wolf" building.

I do have to admit though, this was probably the best produced episode of the entire series. Before this episode I was ready to be upset that they actually went through with killing Splinter AGAIN. But the episode made it work.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

and he'll appear in a campfire.

Already did it.

But if he can do that then I guess the ghost Splinter isn't too far out of question. Esp as they've already established the existence of ghosts with that one that was trapped in that dagger (and Donnie chucked into the ocean).

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by ABrown

Unbelievable Nickelodeon. This is seriously the way that they perceive the TMNT franchise: as having been created by Fred Wolf. Having the battle on top of the "Wolf" building.

LOL, what? The "Wolf" on the building has nothing to do with Fred Wolf. Stop reaching for things.

If anything the building is more of a nod to the rooftop battles in Mirage #1 and the 1990 movie when they fought Shredder.

[Coola Yagami]

I still say blowing up the planet that other time took away any credibility of splinter dying for good.

And though the WOLF building is a callback to the FW series, remember it's also the first place they fought the Shredder in season 1.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't know what happens in the next episode, but I assume he's gone for good this time.

But yeah, get ready for ghost Splinter ala Yoda and Obi-wan in Season 5. They'll probably do what Movie 1 did too and he'll appear in a campfire.

They already did Splinter appearing in the camp fire ala movie 1. It was done during the vision quest episode.

[TurtleTitan97]

Geez, talk about brutal.

[Ashwolf]

Definitely my favorite episode of this version of the show, my only complaint is that splinter wasn't killed off sooner....not saying that I hate splinter, I have nothing against him as a character, just that I've been waiting/hoping for a version that completely goes off their experiences and trials on their own

The episode itself was still nicely done and like the amount of emotion in it even though it didn't feel as emotional as it could've been

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I still say blowing up the planet that other time took away any credibility of splinter dying for good.

And though the WOLF building is a callback to the FW series, remember it's also the first place they fought the Shredder in season 1.

I actually consider it of how super shredder is acting like a lone wolf with how he cut all his "earthly" ties than as a nod to the 80s show

[myconius]

that poll needs to add the selection option- "Splinter's dead? here we go again!"

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by myconius

that poll needs to add the selection option- "Splinter's dead? here we go again!"

Watch next week's episode and you will see why I didn't add that option.

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by myconius

that poll needs to add the selection option- "Splinter's dead? here we go again!"

There's no Fugitoid tho soooo....

That'll be like complaining if Buckbeak died after Prisoner of Azkaban when all the Time Turners are destroyed.

Splinter dead for real this time.

[Hero]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Yeah i've mentioned it.

Yeah I was surprised that nothing got cut of this episode. In Tale of Tiger Claw they cut bits out of Splinter's Drunken Master Lesson but didn't cut out Tiger Claws arm getting cut off. Our censors are strange

Strange indeed.

I'm chuffed the finale is airing is a little earlier here. I think it has been since "Parasitica" in season 1 an episode has aired in the UK first.

[victory_angel]

I also broke down in tears after I heard Mikey call Splinter, Papa. Though admittedly I have always thought that Donnie would use Papa as a way of calling Splinter father while Mikey I could see using "daddy".
Donnie is the only turtle who has not referred to Splinter as his father as of yet. It's always been Sensei or Master. Perhaps there will be a moment coming up in the new season though I don't see him using the father honorific. Perhaps he might use Tousan instead.