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Old 05-24-2015, 11:54 PM   #1
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Was Vision Quest episode a waste?

Based from the latest episodes after vision quest, what do you think?
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Old 05-25-2015, 01:13 AM   #2
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I don't see the vision quest as a waste. It would have been better if it were longer such as taking out a few of the less needed episodes from the North Hampton arc and maybe have more build up that this is something they need to do.

For example a good way to have done it is have Splinter appear to each of the Turtles in a dream and he doesn't talk to them but they do feel his tormented Spirit.

The next morning they realize they all had the same dream. They tell April and Casey they need to go out into the woods for a few days and would be back. That night they all meditate around the camp fire or they are instructed to. Splinter appears to them and tells them what they must do.

Rest of the episode focuses on Mikey's journey. The next episode will focus on Leo and Raphs journey alternating between them. And final episode would focus on Donnie's journey and the return to New York.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:42 AM   #3
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Why it would be considered a waste?
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:19 AM   #4
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Nah. It was needed. If they kept those outfits it would've been cooler.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:23 AM   #5
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Nah. It was needed. If they kept those outfits it would've been cooler.
Yeah, that was the part that felt like a waste. They could have kept those outfits to show they were maturing.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:48 AM   #6
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It wasn't a waste, but it should have been two episodes. We did not need that many horror movie rip off episodes, but it would be nice if somewhere down the line they put on the outfits again. I thought since they are using them in the intro that we'd see them again. Could still happen though.
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Old 05-25-2015, 11:06 AM   #7
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The Episode was used for Playmates to make and sell another set of Turtle Figures
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:43 PM   #8
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Nah, but likewise still agree it would have been nice had it been longer. Each of them getting an episode focusing on them would have been awesome.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:05 PM   #9
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Nah. It was needed. If they kept those outfits it would've been cooler.
Agreed. They look really cool.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:06 PM   #10
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It wasn't a waste, but it should have been two episodes. We did not need that many horror movie rip off episodes, but it would be nice if somewhere down the line they put on the outfits again. I thought since they are using them in the intro that we'd see them again. Could still happen though.
I'd rather have the horror rip offs than episodes like Pizza Face.

And I've liked some of the Northampton episodes better than the ones where they're back in New York.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:57 PM   #11
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I don't see the vision quest as a waste. It would have been better if it were longer such as taking out a few of the less needed episodes from the North Hampton arc and maybe have more build up that this is something they need to do.

For example a good way to have done it is have Splinter appear to each of the Turtles in a dream and he doesn't talk to them but they do feel his tormented Spirit.

The next morning they realize they all had the same dream. They tell April and Casey they need to go out into the woods for a few days and would be back. That night they all meditate around the camp fire or they are instructed to. Splinter appears to them and tells them what they must do.

Rest of the episode focuses on Mikey's journey. The next episode will focus on Leo and Raphs journey alternating between them. And final episode would focus on Donnie's journey and the return to New York.
I really wish they did that now!
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:47 PM   #12
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They can use the outfits for special occasions.
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:39 PM   #13
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They can use the outfits for special occasions.
I wish them kept them on frankly, a way of differentiating this show from the others (and the older 'old skool' outfits) and showing how far they've come. Plus the new weapons really needed to be tested out farther. I really want to see Raph learn to use his fire to it's best extent, keeping the sais as a backup just in case, or Leo getting to use those sweet new arrows more often. Why they only used them once I don't know, as they really felt to me like the Turtles were finally growing up.
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:56 PM   #14
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I don't think it was a waste of an episode but I do think it was a wasted opportunity. Honestly, the entire Northampton run was a wasted opportunity for some much needed self-reflection and character development.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:22 PM   #15
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It'd be a waste not to see those kick-ass outfits again, I'll say that much!
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How is it a waste compared to any other random filler episode?
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:32 PM   #17
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By itself, it was a fine and essential episode. It really culminated the "Northamption saga."

Since then, it appears the show doesn't have much desire to reference it again, which is surprising.
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I wonder if we'd even be having this discussion if the costumes weren't featured in the theme song.
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Old 05-27-2015, 09:28 AM   #19
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Why it would be considered a waste?
Sorry for the late reply.
I thought it was a waste because the only one I saw that really 'benefited' from the vision quest was Leo. From the gist of what Splinter said to the four of them this is what I interpreted.

Donnie needs to use his instincts more.
Raph needs to focus his aggressiveness or in my understanding tranquil fury.
Mikey needs to slow down to assess his situation.
And Leo needs to push through any problems or something.

But the minute they enter New York Donnie, Ralph and Mikey had an Aesop amnesia. I didn't see Donnie use his instincts, Mikey slow down and Raph focus his aggressiveness.
Heck the closest thing I saw to a Raphael in tranquil fury was when he was being mind controlled by Shredder.
Well that's all, I guess. If I missed something, please tell me.

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Old 05-27-2015, 10:59 AM   #20
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I believe Vision Quest was the best episode of the Northampton arc storywise. However, it did feel disappointing that it was a self-contained episode. I'm with victoryangel for this one, the episode should have been at least two parts. Whether it be two or three parts, Vision Qyest should tie loose ends with plots not addressed and haven't since coming here. If character driven, it could be the idea at the beginning of the thread with each Turtle getting an episode, giving it three episodes altogether. I personally think it can work as a two-parter though with the outline being this:

Part 1 (same as the episode we got):
-The Turtles decide to go into the woods to prepare for a return
-They start training in the woods following words with Casey and April
-Following brief training, Splinter arrives (commercial)
-This time, have Splinter get 2 or 3 minute of screentime, where he motivates the Turtles on what to do and informing them of the invasion. (Leatherhead could also be mentioned to Mikey's sadness)
-The weapons and costumes are forged and they go out on their own
-Instead of just the Foot Clan being fought, add in the Kraang because of their alliance together (commercial as Leo falls like last time)
-Brief fights with the united forces
-Before having their respective fights, a second fight is added to tie previous plots together and for emotion; the episode concludes with them about to die in their fights. The invasion is also cited to be getting worse by the minute too in the fights. Each brother gets the following:

Leo: Karai (reason: guilt for causing her mutation and not wanting to hurt her. Extremely personal battle for Leo too since he fights Shredder here.)

Raph: Slash (reason: abandoning New York instead of fighting, which ties into the little scene of Raph holding a picture of Spike during The Invasion)

Donnie: Mutagen Man (reason: not curing him. Also brings MM back since his long absence and also addresses the retromutagen storyline.)

Mikey: Leatherhead (reason: emotional battle)

Part 2:
-The fights are continuing with the Turtles winning barely
-They end up meeting together deciding it's time to return, but more of the goons arrive (commercial break)
-After a tussle, have a Kraang (possibly Kraang Prime or even Baxter?) fire a powerful blast which divides the team again
-The four fights in this episode begin (break possibly when Leo gets injured again in his fight)
-The Turtles finally win and return to New York (end)

Like I said, I could see an individual focus if this were to expand into three parts, but I still feel each Turtles needs to clash with their closest ally first and then the final part they battle the Foot Clan.
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