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View Poll Results: Do You Want A New TMNT Film To Be Current Or In The 80's/90's? | |||
Current/Modern | 23 | 38.33% | |
80's/90's | 37 | 61.67% | |
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09-13-2019, 07:01 AM | #81 | |
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09-20-2019, 11:44 AM | #82 |
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09-20-2019, 12:41 PM | #83 |
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Wow, I never considered this. Actually a retro-TMNT film with CGi turtles with the appropriate art direction would be pretty cool....
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10-19-2019, 11:08 PM | #84 | |
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Great question!
I grew up in the 90s and thats when TMNT had the biggest impact on me.. But i could go either way.. as long as it was done well!. Time and period wasn't what hurt the last few films imo.. it was the writing, direction and character design. i could see Hamato and Saki's story as an intro in the 90s and then fast forward to present with the turtles maybe? I want Violence! I want the ninja fight **** turned up to 11!! Joker and Deadpool made a boat load of cash and imo proved a point. No more kiddie ****! It's our turn! I'm really concerned with who they might be considering to direct the next film.. I hope they learned a thing or two after the last two attempts
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10-20-2019, 12:09 AM | #85 |
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That's a good benchmark. Would making any of the last two or three movies period piece movies set in the 80s any better? No, it wouldn't. Seeing pay phones around and no cell phones doesn't add anything to something like TMNT.
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10-20-2019, 10:48 AM | #86 |
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10-20-2019, 01:06 PM | #87 | |
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Also, films are a visual medium, so it's okay to consider how the setting and time period enhance that. But you're right that a single element like setting the film in the past won't make it great. One ingredient won't make great soup, but it can give it flavor. |
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10-20-2019, 01:23 PM | #88 |
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Good point considering every version seems to insist on being set in Manhattan. There’s still plenty of parts of Brooklyn and The Bronx that you could set all the “ninja action” around though.
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10-21-2019, 09:13 PM | #89 |
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It's always been a suspension if disbelief thing that the turtles could have big rooftop battles or find a secluded part of Manhattan to fight and stuff and people not see them. It would still be a suspension of disbelief thing if they set it in the present.
As long as they don't overdo it and make it something blatant that people sit up and say "c'mon they are fighting in the middle of Times Square and it's not going to be picked up by police/news media etc" it'd be okay. In fact their secrecy could even be part of a movie. Think at the end of the movie you have a post credit scene with police looking at various CCTV footage of the turtles and wondering what the heck they are when a shadowy figure surrounded by black ops guys come behind them and says he'll take all files and evidence to do with the four creatures. When they ask who is he is we see a face with dark glasses being pulled down "you may call me Bishop". Boom you've got a sequel set up and an explanation of how the turtles can keep their big public battles secret. |
10-26-2019, 10:54 AM | #90 |
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An 80's setting would offer a few advantages:
1.) It would give a TMNT movie that gritty, 80's urban feel everyone seems to want. The crime, the dirt, the graffiti; New York is almost a different city now than it was then. A modern setting loses something, even if it is theoretically possible to pull it off. 2.) The characters will be fundamentally different; Casey is a product of the time period's violent action movies; a vigilante in a hockey mask shaped by his gritty urban surroundings, and beating up punks and criminals in an environment that doesn't exist anymore. Sure you could still slap a mask on Casey and make him a violent hockey-stick swinging vigilante, and there are still some criminals to beat up. but things aren't like they were then. 3.) Despite the claims made here, period piece 'super hero' (I use that term loosely. in this case) are mostly successful. X-men first class was a hit, the incredibles, which both movies feel like they are in an earlier decade, were both a hit. and the recent joker film, a clear grim-and-gritty period piece, was a clear hit. Being a period piece will not alienate potential younger audiences. 4.) And the biggest one; a period piece would definitely set the new film apart from the recent terrible movies. It would let the audience know 'hey, this isn't the same old direction from the bay films, this is a totally new take!' yes, you could just do another modern TMNT, but I feel you have a lot of setting and tonal advantages to starting the turtles off in the era in which they were first created.
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I think one of the (many) reasons why Out Of The Shadows failed was because that it tried to market the movie almost exclusively to little kids while tapping into a version of the property only their parents half remember or care about. Even if the next movie isn't quite the kiddie affair and is more aimed at teens and young adults that make comic book movies such successes the same logic applies. Here is something filled with cultural references they wont understand or care about.
Then there is a practical argument to made here; period pieces tend to be more expensive to make. You need period specific cars, architecture, fashion, etc. Often they try and evoke the film style of the period with extra mood lighting and stylized effects. I'm still somewhat amazed that they are considering another TMNT movie after how the last one did but I can practically guarantee they wont sink as much money into it so why waste it on emulating the 80s? What is the trade off? Quote:
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If you wanted to you could always give Casey his actual origin that was depicted in the 2003 series and the Mirage comics. When he was a child Hun and the Purple Dragons torch his family business and kill his father. At very least allude to it. A personal tragedy makes sense whatever time period you set the movie in. Quote:
Joker to me is a prime example of why a new TMNT movie should not be set in the 80s. The movie tries to take a lot of today's social issues and apply them to a period were the most talked about issues were very different. Also it depicts something going viral in an age before the internet. It just seems Phillips wanted to depict todays issues and how they evolve but decided that making it a period piece so people would think it was a 'real' movie not like those other comic book movies without thinking of whether it fits or even if was realistically possible in the period he set it in. Quote:
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11-24-2019, 12:08 PM | #92 |
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With the power of hindsight it would be kinda cool if there was some sort of TMNT special set in the 80's or so but due to advanced Dimension X Technology he'd have access to things like flash drives, drones and stuff that exists now that didn't exist then. It would be funny seeing Donatello grab an external HD and be like "wow, it's some sort of portable data storage device packing enough power to store 5 whole computers worth worth of data, I'd say this kind of technology is at least a decade ahead of us guys" and for him to be right.
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10-14-2023, 08:26 PM | #93 |
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I think some sort of hybrid approach works best for the IP, but given how Mutant Mayhem handled modernizing the setting to the 2020s, I’m torn either way.
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