Next mutation and its future.

puirnaut · 11-19-2020, 05:03 AM

Who owns the rights to Ninja Turtles Next Mutation? Who know about it. I want to see Venus de milo with a new origin story. I'm wondering whether Nickelodeon acquired the rights to this show or not?

Many people will say that idw has enough turtles, but I want to see Venus again. For example, she could become an agent of lady Nall, in the machinations against the turtles. Have the abbreviated name "Object V", since turtles are growing up and now, in addition to physical and mental tests, they can be subjected to love ones. This is just a brief example of how it could be added to the series, especially after the explosion of a mutagenic bomb. The motivation could be Venera's revenge for the death of her master at the hands of splinter, or programming in Nall Industries her mind for this task.
Sophie once said she had plans for Venus. but it is not yet possible to complete them. I think with the interest of the public, it will be able to agree and add Venus to the series and make it a decent character with a deep, well-developed personality

puirnaut · 11-19-2020, 05:25 AM

I was surfing the Internet and somewhere I read an information that Nickelodeon did not acquire the rights to the show, but I cannot trust this source, and the wiki does not say about it.

*neatoman* · 11-19-2020, 06:03 AM

Who owns the Next Mutation? The best way of knowing that for sure is to check the copyright on the most recent DVD release from a few years back and go from there.

Not knowing for sure however, here are the possibilities:

When Saban was sold to Disney, it's possible that Disney aquired it. If it has ever aired on the Disney channel or something, that would be a good indicator that it is.
Haim Saban could have held onto it himself.
Saban did sell several assets to Hasbro, which could mean Hasbro owns it.

*CyberCubed* · 11-19-2020, 07:12 AM

IDW just introduced Jennika so they're obvious not going to use Venus.

*neatoman* · 11-19-2020, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

IDW just introduced Jennika so they're obvious not going to use Venus.

What if Jennika's head gets stuck in an hydraulic press?

*sdp* · 11-19-2020, 07:39 AM

Here you can find all the information you can find over Ninja Turtles The Next Mutation season 2, and as you can see most of the info gathered there is from what you can find online and not all is verified but the article mentions those that iirc.

*Powder* · 11-19-2020, 09:21 AM

It has no future. It's been done for over 20 years. We'd be lucky to see a villain loosely adapted in IDW, at best.

*CyberCubed* · 11-19-2020, 09:43 AM

The closest we've gotten is characters with the vague name "Dragon Lord" in other continuities a few times, even in Image which was running the same time as Next Mutation in 1997, but that's about it. And the name "Dragon Lord" is so generic it can be re-used again and nobody would think about it.

*frank_one* · 11-19-2020, 09:43 AM

How can you desire to see a second female turtles added to the IDW series? Isn't one enough?

*sdp* · 11-19-2020, 09:48 AM

As far as the rights issues Saban owned the suits and footage of the show, then Disney owned it when Saban sold Fox Kids to them, then Saban owned it again when Disney sold all the Power Rangers Productions shows back to him and now Hasbro owns whatever is left of the suits (they were still around in 2014 from picture evidence of Power Rangers Super Mega Force) and also the actual show.

As far as the rights to the characters that's a question we have never had answered, it could be Hasbro but I believe Eastman actually created Venus and maybe a few of the other characters so perhaps it was Mirage(now Viacom) who owned anything made for TNM. I've tried asking over the years but got no response except that "some characters are in a "gray area" of who owns them or were told by viacom that they couldn't.

Since we haven't seen them by now, I think we'll never see any TNM characters ever again, especially now that Jennika exists..

*CyberCubed* · 11-19-2020, 10:00 AM

Most characters were generic enough. Bonesteel is basically any other bounty hunter we've seen, Dr. Quease was just a mad scientist which the OT had plenty of, Vam Mi is a vampire which we've had plenty of in Mirage comics, and Silver was a mutant (?) gorilla. Besides that dragons which appeared in everything since the 2k3 series

*sdp* · 11-19-2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most characters were generic enough. Bonesteel is basically any other bounty hunter we've seen, Dr. Quease was just a mad scientist which the OT had plenty of, Vam Mi is a vampire which we've had plenty of in Mirage comics, and Silver was a mutant (?) gorilla. Besides that dragons which appeared in everything since the 2k3 series

I disagree, the characters have potential if used correctly, they had neat quirks that makes them better than a generic mad scientist or mobster.

Bonesteel is a crazy bounty hunter, he's only ever a cool character in the Vammi 4 parter where his schizo gives him some great moments as a villain he has potential. Vammi I don't care for vampires in TMNT in genreal.

Dr. Quease isn't just any mad scientist, he was the scientist Donatello looked up to and in a way they had a relationship of respect. That's one aspect that made him interesting and different from other mad scientists including Stockman.

Silver was a mobster and a gorilla, I flippin' love him and he is easily the character I want the most since a lot can be done with him that would be fun.

Dragonlord is not that interesting but it has potential, I liked the idea of a dragon army, the good dragon was an interesting character. I think a cool story arc could be done with him.

And I'll take Venus over Jennika any day of the week, she had a cooler backstory IMO and Jennika is Venus

*Powder* · 11-19-2020, 04:49 PM

Wow, what timing... Michelangelo's voice actor passed away today.

https://www.gateworld.net/news/2020/...er-dies-at-47/

*IndigoErth* · 11-19-2020, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by puirnaut

Have the abbreviated name "Object V", since turtles are growing up and now, in addition to physical and mental tests, they can be subjected to love ones.

What. I'm not opposed to her showing up elsewhere someday if done in a reasonable way that worked well that people won't hate, but lets skip that part...

PizzaPower1985 · 11-19-2020, 06:10 PM

I think as far as the female turtle goes, Jennika is a replacement, and far better character than Demilo ever was.

*Allio* · 11-19-2020, 07:53 PM

I assume Hasbro owns those episodes as they inherited the shows Saban had, but characters belong to nick/viacom

11-19-2020, 07:39 AM	#6
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11-19-2020, 09:21 AM	#7
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	It has no future. It's been done for over 20 years. We'd be lucky to see a villain loosely adapted in IDW, at best. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

11-19-2020, 09:48 AM	#10
sdp Megan Fox = April Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 9,999	As far as the rights issues Saban owned the suits and footage of the show, then Disney owned it when Saban sold Fox Kids to them, then Saban owned it again when Disney sold all the Power Rangers Productions shows back to him and now Hasbro owns whatever is left of the suits (they were still around in 2014 from picture evidence of Power Rangers Super Mega Force) and also the actual show. As far as the rights to the characters that's a question we have never had answered, it could be Hasbro but I believe Eastman actually created Venus and maybe a few of the other characters so perhaps it was Mirage(now Viacom) who owned anything made for TNM. I've tried asking over the years but got no response except that "some characters are in a "gray area" of who owns them or were told by viacom that they couldn't. Since we haven't seen them by now, I think we'll never see any TNM characters ever again, especially now that Jennika exists.. __________________ *Bye* *TMNT !!! I'm unaliving tonight* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-19-2020, 04:49 PM	#13
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	Wow, what timing... Michelangelo's voice actor passed away today. https://www.gateworld.net/news/2020/...er-dies-at-47/ __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

11-19-2020, 07:53 PM	#16
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,086	I assume Hasbro owns those episodes as they inherited the shows Saban had, but characters belong to nick/viacom __________________ Last edited by Allio; 11-19-2020 at 08:01 PM.

11-19-2020, 05:03 AM	#1
puirnaut Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 32	Who owns the rights to Ninja Turtles Next Mutation? Who know about it. I want to see Venus de milo with a new origin story. I'm wondering whether Nickelodeon acquired the rights to this show or not? Many people will say that idw has enough turtles, but I want to see Venus again. For example, she could become an agent of lady Nall, in the machinations against the turtles. Have the abbreviated name "Object V", since turtles are growing up and now, in addition to physical and mental tests, they can be subjected to love ones. This is just a brief example of how it could be added to the series, especially after the explosion of a mutagenic bomb. The motivation could be Venera's revenge for the death of her master at the hands of splinter, or programming in Nall Industries her mind for this task. Sophie once said she had plans for Venus. but it is not yet possible to complete them. I think with the interest of the public, it will be able to agree and add Venus to the series and make it a decent character with a deep, well-developed personality

11-19-2020, 05:25 AM	#2
puirnaut Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 32	I was surfing the Internet and somewhere I read an information that Nickelodeon did not acquire the rights to the show, but I cannot trust this source, and the wiki does not say about it.

11-19-2020, 07:12 AM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,056	IDW just introduced Jennika so they're obvious not going to use Venus.

11-19-2020, 09:43 AM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,056	The closest we've gotten is characters with the vague name "Dragon Lord" in other continuities a few times, even in Image which was running the same time as Next Mutation in 1997, but that's about it. And the name "Dragon Lord" is so generic it can be re-used again and nobody would think about it.

11-19-2020, 09:43 AM	#9
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 1,984	How can you desire to see a second female turtles added to the IDW series? Isn't one enough?

11-19-2020, 10:00 AM	#11
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,056	Most characters were generic enough. Bonesteel is basically any other bounty hunter we've seen, Dr. Quease was just a mad scientist which the OT had plenty of, Vam Mi is a vampire which we've had plenty of in Mirage comics, and Silver was a mutant (?) gorilla. Besides that dragons which appeared in everything since the 2k3 series

11-19-2020, 06:10 PM	#15
PizzaPower1985 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: United States Posts: 947	I think as far as the female turtle goes, Jennika is a replacement, and far better character than Demilo ever was.