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Old 08-03-2011, 03:11 PM   #1
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Push for Forever War on IDW boards

Hi everyone. Over at the IDW boards there is one older thread that sort of petered out requesting IDW get Steve Murphy to finish the Forever War story. Since I know a lot more people have expressed interest in it, I would encourage you all to post on the thread here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9889

Let IDW know you would like to see Steve Murphy and Chris Allan tell this story.
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:29 PM   #2
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Will they really do it? That editor in the questions thread said that for now, they only want to focus on their TMNT series. Only if it proves successful would they consider releasing specials set in either the Mirage or Archie universe.
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:38 PM   #3
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IDW's TMNT series isn't even out yet. So it will probably be a year or two of sales figures before they determine whether such a venture is worth the capital.

But bear these two things in mind:

IDW resurrected Marvel's GI Joe series from the original numbering with the original writer at the behest of fans.

IDW just announced that they're resurrecting Marvel's Transformers series from the original numbering with the original writer and artist at the behest of fans.

If anyone is willing to resurrect an old series for a proper conclusion, it would be IDW. All we can do is put the seed in their heads now, support their TMNT titles so the profits are strong and keep our voices loud.

After that, if IDW shows sufficient interest, it's in Steve Murphy's and Chris Allan's hands. If those two don't want to do it then we're all outta luck.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:14 PM   #4
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I've heard word on this forum from Andrew Modeen that Murphy is trying to talk IDW into publishing Forever War, and from my correspondence with Chris Allan, he seems entirely willing to jump back into the TMNT saddle, so all systems seem ready to go.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:21 PM   #5
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I'm sort of with you Dr. Spengler, and I know it will take a long time (and after IDW sees how successful they are with the turtles) but yeah, the reason I'm encouraging people to speak up now is because Murph has put word in with IDW about it.

And who knows, maybe they'll say they can't think about it for a year or two. But I think it's good to play it up right now, then maybe push for it again after their main comic series gets rolling.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:32 PM   #6
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Forever War being completed would also convince IDW to start putting out Archie trades, so that is a plus.

Now if only all this new TMNT stuff especially with Eastman involved finally motivates PL to finish Volume 4.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:35 PM   #7
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Incidentally, "The Forever War" was the subject of my most recent research article at TMNT Entity (I had just about finished writing it when this thread popped up):

Whatever Happened to "The Forever War"?

All information you pros likely know, but it should prove a more compelling read for casual fans.

I made sure to list the IDW forums thread and IDW's e-mail address at the bottom, encouraging fans to contact them about seeing the series completed.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:53 PM   #8
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Wow, what a backstory to everything with Murphy and the Archie heads... I'm so glad that Murph's reconsidering finishing it, and with Chris Allan on board... I'm gonna absolutely jump on it if it comes to fruition.

I love seeing the teaser covers and the sketch work. I always did like Splinter's samurai uniform...
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:11 PM   #9
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At this point if this thing ever sees the light of day, I imagine the story we get now will be totally different than the one planned from 1995. Not that it really matters though.

I'd like to see it completed, but I get the feeling the hype of it being delayed for 15 years makes it more interesting than it might actually turn out.

I've already accepted "Year of the Turtle" as the Archie finale for over 15 years now, so if it doesn't happen, I already have my ending.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:29 PM   #10
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I noticed you kinda vilify Peter here, saying he's the cause of the "second demise". But from what I understood, the reason it never came out in May or August was because Murphy simply never got his sh*t together and wrote it.

So yeah, Pete's selling of the property nipped it for good... but if Murphy had it ready for a May release, that wouldn't have been an problem, right?

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Old 08-03-2011, 09:40 PM   #11
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the reason it never came out in May or August was because Murphy simply never got his sh*t together and wrote it.
If that was true, how come he'd already written 2/3 of it and Chris Allan hadn't drawn anything yet?
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:45 PM   #12
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If that was true, how come he'd already written 2/3 of it and Chris Allan hadn't drawn anything yet?
Yeah, that's the point I really remember.

Wasn't Allan going through a difficult time (financially anyway) transitioning away from being a full-time artist?
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Incidentally, "The Forever War" was the subject of my most recent research article at TMNT Entity (I had just about finished writing it when this thread popped up):

Whatever Happened to "The Forever War"?
Great article, Spengs, but you might wanna revise this sentence:
"as the number of children plummeted with the increased competition from video games."

You meant to say "the number of children readers" plummeted with the increased competition from video games, right? lol

Also, weren't the terms of the Viacom deal that Laird could publish 18 Mirage Universe stories a year? Your post claims 15.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:23 PM   #13
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Great article, Spengs, but you might wanna revise this sentence:
"as the number of children plummeted with the increased competition from video games."

You meant to say "the number of children readers" plummeted with the increased competition from video games, right? lol

Also, weren't the terms of the Viacom deal that Laird could publish 18 Mirage Universe stories a year? Your post claims 15.
It's a quote of Murph's, so I imagine he wishes to keep it as it was originally written.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:26 PM   #14
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It's a quote of Murph's, so I imagine he wishes to keep it as it was originally written.
So... video games really do kill children? We really should have listened to Joe Lieberman back in the day!
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:05 AM   #15
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Also, weren't the terms of the Viacom deal that Laird could publish 18 Mirage Universe stories a year? Your post claims 15.
It might matter if he actually intended on publishing anything period. He was barely doing 12 issues a year when Tales was in full swing. It was late all the time.

This would be awesome by the way and I seriously hope it happens.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:28 AM   #16
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Fixed the Murph quote (I did fail to transcribe "reading comics" in there, whoops) and changed the number from 15 to 18.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:05 PM   #17
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Awesome article. Stuff I knew, stuff I didn't, well-done all-around.

I loved the Archie book and Forever War would be my most-anticipated bit of TMNT ever. I still hold out hope I'll see some version of it in my lifetime. I like to see things get the ending they deserve.
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