Did anyone else feel Super Shredder was a little unnecessary

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

It is also worth noting that Splinters first reaction upon seeing Super Shredder was to respond with concern and offer to help him end his mutation, to which Shredder refused and attacked him.

I think the final nail in the coffin was in Requiem when Shredder's evil had taken him so far that he ordered Stockman to inject him with more mutagen that would ultimately destroy all emotional reaction within. That way, he had given up his soul for good and essentially was nothing but a mindless killing machine.

In his final confrontation with Leonardo, the Shredder seemed to hesitate when Leonardo asked him whether his destiny was to be a monster but then immediately started attacking again impulsively. It's as if his soul deep down was trapped and suffering in hell, unable to affect his body and regretful, but it was far too late to change as his body had become what his spirit was throughout the series, the embodiment of evil.

And that is what drove him to take Kavaxas back into hell with him with the final words of "You and I don't belong in this world, Demon!"

I've mentioned this before, but in the Buddist views of the afterlife, you go through many long and unpleasant trials on your journey through the underworld. On this journey, you also face judgment at the hands of four judges before you face the lord of the underworld, Enma Dioh (King Yama for DBZ fans).

When you face King Enma he weighs the reports of the other four judges to determine where you will ultimately be placed and then shows you a full-length mirror that reflects your life back at you, and clearly defines all your crimes and transgressions. So Shredder would be forced to look at his life and realize that he was the author of his own missery.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Well, King Yama if you prefer his Indian Sanskrit name over his Japanese name. But, yeah, you're right.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I guess a mutant Super Shredder was an easier way of allowing the turtles to kill Shredder off without complainings.

[Hamato Yoshi]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

As someone who actually hasn't watched it, I do think mutating Shredder undermines his threat as a character. Seeing the Turtles outmatched by a well-trained human is more satisfying for me than seeing them outmatched by a massive mutant.

But I'm open to changing my mind whenever I get around to watching it someday.

This.

Also why would he risk his life anyway.....what if something went wrong during mutation , I mean he's no dummy and should know it's too risky.

Sorry but I thought you guys were talking about TMNT II , my bad. I had no idea he was Super Shredder on Nick toon

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

At least I wasn't surprised once Super Shredder showed up.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Hamato Yoshi

This.

Also why would he risk his life anyway.....what if something went wrong during mutation , I mean he's no dummy and should know it's too risky.

Sorry but I thought you guys were talking about TMNT II , my bad. I had no idea he was Super Shredder on Nick toon

He was warned numerous times that the mutagen was dangerous and unstable. Even when he was finalizing his mutation he was warned that injecting himself in mass would be dangerous. But he was to blinded by his anger and his desires for revenge that he refused to listen to reason.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

He was warned numerous times that the mutagen was dangerous and unstable. Even when he was finalizing his mutation he was warned that injecting himself in mass would be dangerous. But he was to blinded by his anger and his desires for revenge that he refused to listen to reason.

And that's what became his death. Of course, it was meant to be that. His own obsession with destroying the turtles led to himself being destroyed by them.

[shredder orokusaki]

i took as many mutagen as i could so i can become the strongest monster of the universe! I wanted to become strongert han all mutants and aliens combined and i did that! Now iam still preparing demons attack on earth with Kavaxas!!!

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

At least not unnecessary for toy companies...

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

At least not unnecessary for toy companies...

Hah! Yeah, I would not be shocked if this was a last minute change demanded by Playmates.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Hah! Yeah, I would not be shocked if this was a last minute change demanded by Playmates.

Also, Super Shredder is part of the original TMNT nostalgia (second live-action film, original videogames) so I guess he's most popular among older toy collectors.