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Old 04-17-2013, 10:27 PM   #21
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So you're telling me that Goku never made the spirit bomb, got hit my Azula Vegeta, transfers the energy to Krillin who throws the spirit bomb at Vegeta with King Kais guidance, misses where it bounces off of Gohan and hits Vegeta? I think you should go rewatch that episode bud.
That all happens, but it doesn't beat him. Vegeta gets back up and is ready to kill them all until Goku coaxes Gohan into transforming, who then only barely manages to beat Vegeta by getting lucky and falling on him.

Yes, of course Goku is stronger later.

Why are we talking about this?
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:36 PM   #22
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i don't know. Let's get back on topic.

It really looks like a great issue and I'll be picking up this issue along with a few other micro series issues I've missed out on.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:07 AM   #23
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it was a great issue. There is something however that is not explained in this issue. Is Traag an alien made of rock like he is in the OT and Nick cartoon?
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:45 AM   #24
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it was a great issue. There is something however that is not explained in this issue. Is Traag an alien made of rock like he is in the OT and Nick cartoon?
He's an alien, but his rocky exterior is not natural.

Baxter Stockman developed the rock soldier mutagen, as was explained early in the series.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:48 AM   #25
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It seemed like Traag and Granitor both come from a non rock-covered species, and Krang gave the rock-like armor to them later. Am I correct in this? If so, it kind of takes the point of the name GRANITor away...

I thought the issue was enjoyable. Not my favorite in the Micro-Series, but that's just because I'm growing a bit tired of Krang. I'm much more excited about the villains involved in the upcoming Cityfall story: Alopex and Old Hob. We still have a Baxter issue before then, though, and it seems like that will largely be focused on Baxter's reaction to Krang, which makes sense.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:45 AM   #26
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It seemed like Traag and Granitor both come from a non rock-covered species, and Krang gave the rock-like armor to them later. Am I correct in this? If so, it kind of takes the point of the name GRANITor away...
That is correct.

Baxter exposits about developing the rock soldier process and mutating Krangs forces in TMNT (IDW) #7.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:50 AM   #27
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It seemed like Traag and Granitor both come from a non rock-covered species, and Krang gave the rock-like armor to them later. Am I correct in this? If so, it kind of takes the point of the name GRANITor away...

I thought the issue was enjoyable. Not my favorite in the Micro-Series, but that's just because I'm growing a bit tired of Krang. I'm much more excited about the villains involved in the upcoming Cityfall story: Alopex and Old Hob. We still have a Baxter issue before then, though, and it seems like that will largely be focused on Baxter's reaction to Krang, which makes sense.
First off,I apologize for the DBZ comparison. I just saw a mirrored background between a character and Krang and wondered if Tom did this conciously.


As mentioned above, Baxter Stockman used the turtles then experiements to develope a mutagenic serum from the dna of a turtle shell to create the rock skin of the rock soliders as we know them. This gave us the asnwer as to where the army came from. It also showed us that Krang's father's enemy, Traxus is Krang's robotic body itself.

My question is,when are we going to get a development on what about to Professor Honeycutt? I expected this issue to cover that.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:14 AM   #28
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So you're telling me that Goku never made the spirit bomb, got hit my Azula Vegeta, transfers the energy to Krillin who throws the spirit bomb at Vegeta with King Kais guidance, misses where it bounces off of Gohan and hits Vegeta? I think you should go rewatch that episode bud. Technically Gohan finishes Vegeta by smashing him while in his Azula form.

So in certain respects, I am wrong. But in my opinion barring Vegeta going Azula Goku had it in the bag.

Need I bring DBZ GT into the mix? There are plenty of times Goku smacks Vegeta around in that series.
I apologize for going off-topic, but...

What the f**k is Azula?
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:56 AM   #29
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I apologize for going off-topic, but...

What the f**k is Azula?
Saiyans who have a tail.

They're also called Oozaru.
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I'd also like to know why Traag is spelled as Tragg.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:18 PM   #31
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Really good story, loved how evil they made Krang. Also, it was a really clever way to explain where Krang's body came from.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:44 PM   #32
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Not exactly related to the issue, but to Krang's origin:
1.) Foot Ninjas break into Stockman's lab to steal Ouze, at the beginning.
2.) Foot Ninjas break into Stockman's lab to kindap Splinter.
3.) April steals data from Stockman's lab.
3.) Foot Ninja (Karai) breaks into Krang's Burnow Island base, and steal Ooze again.

God, those guys really need to hire a proper security! How is that Krang still doesn't look at the Foot Clan as a treat? Don't get it. Especially since back in the day Shredder also killed an Utrom in "Secret History of the Foot Clan". Btw, I think he was not Quanin, because Fugitoid stated it in Krang War, that Quanin died with the Utrom homeworld, thanks to the Ooze, that they abused for their wars. (...or if 0e was Quanin, Shredder's not killed him, as he tought. it happened kinda off-screen way)

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It seemed like Traag and Granitor both come from a non rock-covered species, and Krang gave the rock-like armor to them later. Am I correct in this? If so, it kind of takes the point of the name GRANITor away...
Yup, they were yellow-skinned, bald, humanoid creatures. There was some dialogue where Krang said to Baxter, that all he did was failure, then Baxter replied with how the Rock Soldier serum worked, and made their skin stone-solid, and bullet-proof. That topic's also revisited in Krang War, when one of the Neutrinos shot down Granitor, and a few minutes he returned with any major injuries. Well, I think that was Granitor...


About the Micro, it was kinda nice, nothing too "groundbreaking" or whatever, but it was a nice read.
Also, the art is awesome! I know Henderson did the Casey micro before, but I really hope that he will draw even more TMNT in the future.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:10 PM   #33
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Really good story, loved how evil they made Krang. Also, it was a really clever way to explain where Krang's body came from.
I didnt noticed that it was krang robot body i thought that he was another alien. But now that i read the issue again yes it is a robot. So this robot became very intelligent and had it own mind and decided to kill krang. I dont understand why Kranf decided to use it as his robot body afer all what it has done instead of destroying it.
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It seemed like Traag and Granitor both come from a non rock-covered species, and Krang gave the rock-like armor to them later. Am I correct in this? If so, it kind of takes the point of the name GRANITor away...

I thought the issue was enjoyable. Not my favorite in the Micro-Series, but that's just because I'm growing a bit tired of Krang. I'm much more excited about the villains involved in the upcoming Cityfall story: Alopex and Old Hob. We still have a Baxter issue before then, though, and it seems like that will largely be focused on Baxter's reaction to Krang, which makes sense.
I agree with you on that.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:35 PM   #35
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That was ok. I really liked that art, and the Morbus reference was awesome, but it was pretty much all by the numbers and turned out to be almost completely what I was expecting.

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God, those guys really need to hire a proper security! How is that Krang still doesn't look at the Foot Clan as a treat? Don't get it. Especially since back in the day Shredder also killed an Utrom in "Secret History of the Foot Clan". Btw, I think he was not Quanin, because Fugitoid stated it in Krang War, that Quanin died with the Utrom homeworld, thanks to the Ooze, that they abused for their wars. (...or if 0e was Quanin, Shredder's not killed him, as he tought. it happened kinda off-screen way)
Shredder didn't kill that Utrom. They knocked him back into his portal then blew it up.

Although, I thought they killed him too my first time reading it.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:59 PM   #36
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A nice little issue that works. I liked the origin to Krang's exosuit, although Traxus' design totally reminded me of Sigma from Mega Man X! I definitely see the Vegeta origin comparison and the inferiority complex that Krang develops from his race's inherent small size. I think showing how Utroms find ways to accommodate this shortcoming really ups their threat credibility.

The artwork is fantastic and Henderson is quickly moving up the ranks in TMNT artists for me. Would love to see him do a whole mini-series like Santoloucco on Secret History. Him doing both the gritty Casey Jones issue and this more sci-fi oriented issue shows he has a lot range in his very clean but detailed art.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:30 AM   #37
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great issue. i feel like they could of done more with him.

i felt wanting more as I finished it.

they should do 1 more on him... i think. just felt too brief
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:38 AM   #38
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I liked the issue for what it was, but agreed that it seemed a bit brief considering all the hype behind it. But that could be more our fault than IDW's.
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