TMNT #95 Preview and Discussion - Page 7

07-05-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Just realized this arc only has 5 issues left, I have no idea how they’re going to resolve most of the basic plot in that time. Obviously most character arcs will continue past that, but City at War itself is supposed to conclude with #100.

Makes me think the Shredder might actually come back in #100. Before, I was sure he'd appear at the start of the latter half of this arc, but it appears I'm not as good as predicting things as I thought.

Or alternatively, the crew saw my posts here and completely rewrote the script for the sole purpose of trolling me. That sounds realistic too.

scribblesartist · 07-05-2019, 09:08 PM

@allessandraDC. Yes there has been a 5th turtle in the IDW. Slash!! However he extremely different from the four turtles. So it works and doesn’t take away from what the turtles are. Not saying Jennika will be recantation of that awful Venus Character from the Ninja turtles TV show. She could be a completely different and new female turtle. Don’t know.. however the whole idea of turning jennika into a turtle I though was a terrible move. Regardless of what comes next.. it’s highly unlikely I’ll like it at all.

07-06-2019, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scribblesartist

@allessandraDC. Yes there has been a 5th turtle in the IDW. Slash!! However he extremely different from the four turtles. So it works and doesn’t take away from what the turtles are. Not saying Jennika will be recantation of that awful Venus Character from the Ninja turtles TV show. She could be a completely different and new female turtle. Don’t know.. however the whole idea of turning jennika into a turtle I though was a terrible move. Regardless of what comes next.. it’s highly unlikely I’ll like it at all.

Out of curiosity, why do you dislike the concept so much?

Lord Nightwalker · 07-06-2019, 07:23 AM

As long as the story telling continues to be of high quality, I say let them tell their story. Jennika mutates into a new Ninja turtle....this could be a really cool thing. Basically, I'm going to sit back and enjoy the ride. Still wish they would do novelizations.

corvus · 07-06-2019, 08:26 AM

Theres a few things I don't like. Firstly, I may be the only person who likes Jennika, I like her backstory, I like her subtle character development...im not really fussed over her relationship with Casey but its revealed a lot about the character. I feel turning her into a mutant turtle isn't the best direction to take this in.

The second thing, this is the big one, is how the hell have mutants been a thing for this long and no one has discovered that giving people a mutant blood transfusion would immediately mutate them into a nearly identical creature? Karai is gonna be pissed and smack a bunch of her scientists around when she finds out she could have been making dozens of sharks and falcons out of Koya and Bludgeon...and why does Null only have like six mutants? The hells she gotta rob pet stores and make humunculi for? This concept is silly, I know mirage did it with blood sucker in one of their best story archs but mirage, especially at the time, had a very different and silly tone.

*Utrommaniac* · 07-06-2019, 10:26 AM

I'd think they'd be getting into all those details in time.

Don probably figured it out on the fly and on a hunch.

Also, Null does have a lot more mutants, they're just in a stasis-like state, I think.

It's another tankard of gasoline to the fire that is City at War and the stories beyond it.

It literally just happened; there's a lot of different directions it's going to go. But one thing's for certain - Karai indeed is going to be pissed. And so is Bishop.

scribblesartist · 07-06-2019, 12:30 PM

@igglet. Yeah I’m more in the favour of keeping the four turtles special. Find when you introduce to many mutants of the same species or to many mutants in general. Kind of take away from that. 4 turtles don’t stand out as much. Has nothing to do with a female turtle.. there are plenty of strong female mutants in the IDW universe that stand out.. Alopex, cougar from mutanimals, can’t remember her name at the moment. New scorpion lady. To name a few. Al I’m saying is if your gonna keep the 4 main turtles in then four ground.. introducing a bunch of random ninja turtles in the mix.. isn’t Gonna help keep the beloved guys we read the comics for now.

*Utrommaniac* · 07-06-2019, 03:45 PM

So here's my question:

Why is it so important that they have to be "special"? There's nothing in the story that suggests that they have to be the only turtles and nothing's at stake if they aren't.

Yeah, Venus put a super sour note on there being an additional turtle (especially a girl turtle), but that doesn't mean it should never be attempted again. This literally just happened and it's not like we don't know who Jenny is.

07-06-2019, 05:24 PM

And I mean, regardless of that, they still ARE special. It's not like IDW just randomly went "Oh yeah here's a new turtle mutant", they aren't about to start mass-producing turtles. This was something that the team has been planning since #1 and, judging by how the writers have been treating it, it appears to be one of the biggest events in the history of this run. This is evidently very major and everything seems to indicate that Jennika is going to become one of the TMNT, judging by all the teasing and hyping regarding this twist, the fact that Tom literally made a statement about how huge this is in this very thread, and by the fact that she's getting her own bandana. ONE new TMNT isn't going to make the others feel less special.

scribblesartist · 07-06-2019, 06:38 PM

@igglet. And if that’s the outcome that becomes of it. With jennica becoming a full fledged member of the fantastic four. With bandana and all. Then Count me out!! Consider me old fashioned but that’s a change I refuse to stand behind. Hey 100 issues is amazing accomplishment and Waltz and Eastman and the artists who brought all there efforts too the table. Raise my glass to there amazing run on TMNT. But this is probably a good time for me to sign off

wish them the best of Luck on there future issues. Cheers 🍻

~~ChosenOne~~ · 07-06-2019, 06:41 PM

There have technically been five turtles in this comic since year two. If anything, Jenny is just filling the vacant spot left in the wake of Slash's death.

Where was the custom bandana thing stated? What color is it?

scribblesartist · 07-06-2019, 06:46 PM

@utromaniac. Good question. Think in the 80s there where 4 turtles, and I think there has been plenty attempts at bringing in a 5th turtle. And almost ALL have failed. Where in 2019... allot more changes have been excepted in the Tmnt universe. Almost all of them have turned out pretty decent. Who’s to say this turns out to be great too, but it’s like I said from the beginning. Just a personal opinion. That’s all

scribblesartist · 07-06-2019, 06:52 PM

@chosenone. Slash was never really classified as “ninja turtle”. However if jennika becomes a replacement for slash in mutianimals. That actually could work. However as it may. Giving her a light blue, yellow or pink banana would just be rediculous.. we would have the teenage mutant Ninja power rangers all over again. Sorry I’m just not buying it.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 07-06-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scribblesartist

@chosenone. Slash was never really classified as “ninja turtle”. However if jennika becomes a replacement for slash in mutianimals. That actually could work. However as it may. Giving her a light blue, yellow or pink banana would just be rediculous.. we would have the teenage mutant Ninja power rangers all over again. Sorry I’m just not buying it.

Personally, I'm more than willing to give IDW the benefit of the doubt. They're yet to do any wrong with this franchise in my eyes (for what that's worth). The only question mark I have with this whole thing is the timing, what with so much already going on in City at War. But, much like Marvel and the constant fears of some sections of the fandom that each new movie will flop, they know what they're doing. Best to wait and see.

*Utrommaniac* · 07-06-2019, 10:01 PM

If there's anything "special" about the turtles, it's the nature of their mutation. That they're "same player, new body" reincarnations. It would be weird if Jennika was that, but she's not. She's literally just "another turtle" and there's nothing wrong with that.

But what's very certain, is that Tom & the Team probably knew this was going to be a controversial decision and prepped for most of the major complaints.

07-07-2019, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Where was the custom bandana thing stated? What color is it?

In this very thread, Tom said that the bandana & its color will be unveiled in #97.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 07-07-2019, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Igglet

In this very thread, Tom said that the bandana & its color will be unveiled in #97.

Oh. Must've missed it, thanks!

07-07-2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Oh. Must've missed it, thanks!

You're welcome, man!

*snake* · 07-07-2019, 11:12 AM

I’m fine with her being a turtle, but not a FIFTH turtle, if that makes any sense.

Always hated that concept and felt it clashed with the existing dynamic and it’s purposes.

scribblesartist · 07-07-2019, 03:35 PM

@snake. Thank you snake. I agree...

07-06-2019, 08:26 AM	#125
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 782	Theres a few things I don't like. Firstly, I may be the only person who likes Jennika, I like her backstory, I like her subtle character development...im not really fussed over her relationship with Casey but its revealed a lot about the character. I feel turning her into a mutant turtle isn't the best direction to take this in. The second thing, this is the big one, is how the hell have mutants been a thing for this long and no one has discovered that giving people a mutant blood transfusion would immediately mutate them into a nearly identical creature? Karai is gonna be pissed and smack a bunch of her scientists around when she finds out she could have been making dozens of sharks and falcons out of Koya and Bludgeon...and why does Null only have like six mutants? The hells she gotta rob pet stores and make humunculi for? This concept is silly, I know mirage did it with blood sucker in one of their best story archs but mirage, especially at the time, had a very different and silly tone. __________________

07-06-2019, 10:26 AM	#126
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	I'd think they'd be getting into all those details in time. Don probably figured it out on the fly and on a hunch. Also, Null does have a lot more mutants, they're just in a stasis-like state, I think. It's another tankard of gasoline to the fire that is City at War and the stories beyond it. It literally just happened; there's a lot of different directions it's going to go. But one thing's for certain - Karai indeed is going to be pissed. And so is Bishop. __________________ DeviantART

07-06-2019, 03:45 PM	#128
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	So here's my question: Why is it so important that they have to be "special"? There's nothing in the story that suggests that they have to be the only turtles and nothing's at stake if they aren't. Yeah, Venus put a super sour note on there being an additional turtle (especially a girl turtle), but that doesn't mean it should never be attempted again. This literally just happened and it's not like we don't know who Jenny is. __________________ DeviantART

07-06-2019, 10:01 PM	#135
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	If there's anything "special" about the turtles, it's the nature of their mutation. That they're "same player, new body" reincarnations. It would be weird if Jennika was that, but she's not. She's literally just "another turtle" and there's nothing wrong with that. But what's very certain, is that Tom & the Team probably knew this was going to be a controversial decision and prepped for most of the major complaints. __________________ DeviantART

07-05-2019, 09:08 PM	#122
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@allessandraDC. Yes there has been a 5th turtle in the IDW. Slash!! However he extremely different from the four turtles. So it works and doesn’t take away from what the turtles are. Not saying Jennika will be recantation of that awful Venus Character from the Ninja turtles TV show. She could be a completely different and new female turtle. Don’t know.. however the whole idea of turning jennika into a turtle I though was a terrible move. Regardless of what comes next.. it’s highly unlikely I’ll like it at all.

07-06-2019, 07:23 AM	#124
Lord Nightwalker Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 677	As long as the story telling continues to be of high quality, I say let them tell their story. Jennika mutates into a new Ninja turtle....this could be a really cool thing. Basically, I'm going to sit back and enjoy the ride. Still wish they would do novelizations.

07-06-2019, 12:30 PM	#127
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@igglet. Yeah I’m more in the favour of keeping the four turtles special. Find when you introduce to many mutants of the same species or to many mutants in general. Kind of take away from that. 4 turtles don’t stand out as much. Has nothing to do with a female turtle.. there are plenty of strong female mutants in the IDW universe that stand out.. Alopex, cougar from mutanimals, can’t remember her name at the moment. New scorpion lady. To name a few. Al I’m saying is if your gonna keep the 4 main turtles in then four ground.. introducing a bunch of random ninja turtles in the mix.. isn’t Gonna help keep the beloved guys we read the comics for now.

07-06-2019, 05:24 PM	#129
Igglet Guest Posts: n/a	And I mean, regardless of that, they still ARE special. It's not like IDW just randomly went "Oh yeah here's a new turtle mutant", they aren't about to start mass-producing turtles. This was something that the team has been planning since #1 and, judging by how the writers have been treating it, it appears to be one of the biggest events in the history of this run. This is evidently very major and everything seems to indicate that Jennika is going to become one of the TMNT, judging by all the teasing and hyping regarding this twist, the fact that Tom literally made a statement about how huge this is in this very thread, and by the fact that she's getting her own bandana. ONE new TMNT isn't going to make the others feel less special.

07-06-2019, 06:38 PM	#130
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@igglet. And if that’s the outcome that becomes of it. With jennica becoming a full fledged member of the fantastic four. With bandana and all. Then Count me out!! Consider me old fashioned but that’s a change I refuse to stand behind. Hey 100 issues is amazing accomplishment and Waltz and Eastman and the artists who brought all there efforts too the table. Raise my glass to there amazing run on TMNT. But this is probably a good time for me to sign off wish them the best of Luck on there future issues. Cheers 🍻

07-06-2019, 06:41 PM	#131
~~ChosenOne~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,951	There have technically been five turtles in this comic since year two. If anything, Jenny is just filling the vacant spot left in the wake of Slash's death. Where was the custom bandana thing stated? What color is it?

07-06-2019, 06:46 PM	#132
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@utromaniac. Good question. Think in the 80s there where 4 turtles, and I think there has been plenty attempts at bringing in a 5th turtle. And almost ALL have failed. Where in 2019... allot more changes have been excepted in the Tmnt universe. Almost all of them have turned out pretty decent. Who’s to say this turns out to be great too, but it’s like I said from the beginning. Just a personal opinion. That’s all

07-06-2019, 06:52 PM	#133
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@chosenone. Slash was never really classified as “ninja turtle”. However if jennika becomes a replacement for slash in mutianimals. That actually could work. However as it may. Giving her a light blue, yellow or pink banana would just be rediculous.. we would have the teenage mutant Ninja power rangers all over again. Sorry I’m just not buying it.

07-07-2019, 11:12 AM	#139
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	I’m fine with her being a turtle, but not a FIFTH turtle, if that makes any sense. Always hated that concept and felt it clashed with the existing dynamic and it’s purposes.

07-07-2019, 03:35 PM	#140
scribblesartist Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 28	@snake. Thank you snake. I agree...