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View Poll Results: Did Peter get a bad deal with Nickelodeon? | |||
Yeah, bad deal. | 4 | 23.53% | |
He got a good deal. | 7 | 41.18% | |
I don't have enough information to say. | 6 | 35.29% | |
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05-03-2018, 02:42 PM | #41 |
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Incidentally, the 700th episode of the show in 2009 was also the finale of the Disney era and the only time the show had ever been properly cancelled.
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05-03-2018, 03:05 PM | #42 |
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PR deal should have been half as much and TMNT should have been double. PR $261 and TMNT $126. One was over-priced and one was underpriced. I mentioned in a different thread I wouldn’t have sold TMNT for less than $100.
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05-03-2018, 03:19 PM | #43 |
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If it sold for $522 million it was for a reason. I'm sure shareholders, lawyers, CEO's and people who work with multiple Japanese companies know more than forum dwellers online.
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05-03-2018, 03:39 PM | #44 |
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Could be truth to that. However some people are better at negotiating than others.
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05-03-2018, 08:15 PM | #45 |
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Just because you feel something is worth more/less doesn't mean that's what it's going for. Anyone who can negotiate the things you're proposing would be rich and would always have a job.
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05-04-2018, 11:02 PM | #46 |
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Keep in mind that Hasbro didn't just buy Power Rangers from this deal, they also bought a dozen other IPs including My Pet Monster, Julius Jr, and Popples, all of which I could easily see Hasbro making new toylines from. So the amount they spent may not make sense when just looking at it as Power Rangers, but all things taken into account, it's a fair price.
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05-05-2018, 04:08 AM | #47 |
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The weirdest thing about all of this, is that I don't understand why they don't just straight up dub the shows. The new footage is probably cheap but it's still a rather unnecessary expense.
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05-05-2018, 05:11 AM | #48 | |
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Power Rangers has often been praised for mixing in originality with the source material. It's what sets it apart from Sentai and has led to the more creative and acclaimed seasons like In Space, Lost Galaxy, and RPM. |
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05-05-2018, 10:15 AM | #49 | |
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05-05-2018, 11:50 AM | #50 | |
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Yeah I do think he got a fair deal. Power Rangers is a bigger brand. TMNT at the moment is more on the level of My Little Pony in how big it is. Saban is clever: he was able to re-market a show with minimal cost and make more than it cost to make. There was no way he could break even or have the series underperform. Which leads me onto:
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Its a bit sad thinking that tmnt isn't as popular nowdays as some of us tend to subconsciously think it is. The Fred Wolf era was truly something, when tmnt dominated literally everything.
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05-05-2018, 12:49 PM | #52 |
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Yeah, TMNT never really managed to have continual overwhelming success like other kids fads like Power Rangers, Pokemon, etc. that literally never stop being popular even with old fans becoming adults and new kids replacing them for the newer incarnations.
In 30+ years we've only had 3 TMNT cartoons, and I'm surprised Nick is starting a reboot so quickly after the 2012 series ended. I expected them to let the franchise rest for awhile. |
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Not to say the other tmnt shows didn't try to be popular by selling toys, but Rise seems to take it to another step by making a much more lighthearted show like the show that launched the franchise into pop culture, and making it more accessible to kids by making an episodic show with 11 minute episodes as opposed to the 22 minutes serialized episodes from Nick and 4Kids.
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05-05-2018, 01:56 PM | #54 |
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Now Toys R Us is out of business so there's even less place to sell toys now. Basically just Walmart, Target and a few other shows.
Plus kids of today don't play with toys much anymore, they move to electronics like ipads and mobile phones much quicker, or just watch youtube. The days of kids playing with action figures regularly has ended. |
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If we're talking about tmnt in its prime however, then I'd definetly agree that the current gen of mlp is about as big as Fred Wolf tmnt was back in the day.
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05-06-2018, 09:09 AM | #60 |
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I had no idea Power Rangers has been airing new episodes consistently for 20+ years. I guess it does make sense.
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