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As far as "if we change them in new iterations, what's the point", why SHOULDN'T characters be improved and revamped? Hell, there's NOTHING good in the Fred Wolf cartoon EXCEPT initial concepts: Technodrome, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Slash, etc. Hundreds of characters and stories get improved all the time. To your example, Mister Freeze was just a dumb ice-themed villain until Batman TAS improved the character and rebranded him as a tragic figure trying to cure his terminally ill wife.
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11-01-2016, 02:36 PM | #82 | |
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Now, Bebop, Rocksteady? Um... I guess they're, uh, strong? Good at holding Krang blasters and missing a lot? Drawing a blank here on anything unique or endearing about them beyond their look to warrant any investment.
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11-01-2016, 02:41 PM | #83 | |
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But big dumb brutes with iconic designs have as much material for improvement as does a guy wearing a fish bowl and sunglasses with a freeze gun. It's all raw material in the end.
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11-01-2016, 02:50 PM | #84 |
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I reeeealy need to get around to reading the IDW Comics. I'm currently still reading Image Volume 3. Volume 4 after that then straight into IDW.
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11-01-2016, 02:57 PM | #85 | |
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The most compelling they have ever been is the micro and mini IDW published, but in the main series they're just an excuse for Hulk-style brawls. They could easily be replaced by other characters and it wouldn't make a difference, after the mini they seem to have been put on hold for now. |
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So if they were to axe Bebop/Rocksteady, as we have already seen....we just get rather similar mutant duos anyway. |
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The reason the first movie performed moderately well was because it was the first live action TMNT movie in 20 years, so we were curious to see a $100MM Turtle movie.
After seeing how craptastic is was, it's no surprise the second movie flopped. I only went to see the spectacle of Bebop/Rocksteady/Krang/the Technodrome on screen for the first time. The movie itself was trite. What needs to happen in a complete reboot of the TMNT movie franchise, and hire a writer who at least knows that Mirage came first and watched Steve Barron's movie. Hell, I'd be fine if Ciro wrote a movie. Hollywood wants to see a successful TMNT movie? Give it a $50-$75MM, scale back the nonsense, and adapt the first 3 issues and Raph micro as a trilogy. Kill Saki, let Baxter have his go, end it all with the Turtles in the transmat, and depending on the success of the three movies then kick off another set adapting Turtles in space. Hellfire, even bring in Krang and the Technodrome as a rogue Oot wanting to cleanse the galaxy of anything Triceraton, including Earth for one time being home to ceratopsians or something. Viacom could hire a group of us for pennies on the dollar and togethere we'd pound out a better TMNT movie than PD and their group of somehow-successful hacks.
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At best? You get better characters than Bebop and Rocksteady. If nothing else? Visual variety.
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I wouldn't mind if they did a live action movie based on the Nicktoon. But a live action movie based on IDW would be awesome. I just like to see it with a serious/dark tone to the story.
The Nicktoon is more darker/serious than the 2016 movie.
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